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Old January 8th, 2019, 06:32 PM
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Re: DAYTON, OH. "BACK TO BASICS" tourney coming soon!!

I don't think anyone brought Nilfheim... a couple people brought Braxas and FOJ had Zelrig. Now that I think about it, the majority of people had a dragon in their army.

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Old January 8th, 2019, 08:54 PM
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I guess I did too good with my Varkaanan Wolf Pack (all melee squads and Heroes) and most people though they were overpowered due to low cost for stats and avoiding a lot of other powers due to the army being all Unique and Large figures, whcih probably caused some people to loose respect for C3V.
I had no respect for the customs anyway, I've had too much experience with player-designed units being unbalanced in other games. I haven't bothered looking at any of the customs here and in the unlikely event I ever run a tournament again no customs would be allowed.

I don't consider them overpowered due the cost for stats, they're not that great compared to a lot of vanilla units - except for the large size, that might nudge them into the upper tier I suppose.

What makes them unbalanced is that their bonding ability is nothing like the already powerful bonding that can be found in the vanilla game. It's way too flexible compared to normal bonding.
Having been one of the other vocal oppositions to the models, I want to note that they were, in addition to having crazy flexible bonding
A) Immune to a large number of special rules due to size
B) Were still single hex, so avoided the disadvantages with movement inherent there
C) Did have strong stats per model compared to classic choices at similar costs
D) Had a special rule complexity per model that exceeds the majority of classic minis


To put it in perspective, here is my list, which paid out the nose for complex bonding versatility.


2x Blade Gruts
Grimnak
Ornak
Marcu
Krug
Brunak


The large size and high speed (they actually outspeed Blade Gruts substantially due to more models per activiation + bonus move rates/abilities) meant that Grimnak & the Gruts were just about useless vs them. Krug was the primary threat, and he did well, though I think it was more due to some questionable engagements rather than his inherent strength.


As a whole, the units did not seem balanced for the cost, nor did they seem to fit with the basic design principles of classic scape. Getting back into the scene after a while off, I'll probably avoid events with customs allowed from here on out.


I get the appeal of trying to spice up a game, but it really was like playing 2 different game systems.
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Re: DAYTON, OH. "BACK TO BASICS" tourney coming soon!!

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I don't think anyone brought Nilfheim... a couple people brought Braxas and FOJ had Zelrig. Now that I think about it, the majority of people had a dragon in their army.
Yeah, that sounds like pretty stacked deck for the Varks. Firestorm too. Damn, I so wish we were there. My Orcs would have had a field day killing dragons.

Im not gonna lie though, TradeMark is right. With like 7 more waves, the game is hugely different from Classic to C3V-inclusive. That is a lot of research youd have to dedicate to have the best chance at tournements. And there are many new armies you can make, with only C3V or merged.

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