The Book of Batman (Bruce Wayne) (II)

[tcglkn]

He's definitely very versatile, and I'm glad we are on the same page cost wise. Is there a certain army you want that makes you want him to come in at 230 points?

[IAmBatman]

No, I just like how it keeps him just below C3G Cap, which is about where I feel he fits into the C3Verse thematically. I'm OK with him going a little over that, though, and will just blame it on the equipment.

Being able to start out with the Emergency First Aid and not being able to have it knocked out of your hand is very helpful.

Edit: Though World's Finest (Superman II, Batman II, Robin II (aka Tim Drake) for 800 would be cool.

[tcglkn]

That army is cool, but I'm glad you have a good reason for costing him there other than just one army. I'm starting to see a lot of that and I'm not sure it's the best practice because we can read what we want out of these tests many times. It's better to have an open mind when looking at the tests. But this doesn't relate to just Batman (II) so I'll stop after this post.

[IAmBatman]

For sure. I just wanted to represent certain design elements here - the Utility Belt and his ability to melt into the shadows and take people out, primarily.

My only real cost concerns are identical to yours - I don't want him being too insanely tough.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

He could decide to drop one in hopes of passing it off to a teammate and then when that becomes implausible (maybe the teammate is destroyed before they get a chance) he'd want to pick it back up.

If there's another Utility Glyph on the battlefield as a random placement, he might want to drop a Utility Glyph and pick that one up.

1. I completely forgot about "dropping" and there is also "passing" in our rules too. I thought I might be overlooking something.
2. I hear ya, but at the same time, I have to comment on it. If you get to decide which 3 Glyphs to start with, why would you change your mind? Just kidding around on that really.

Batman may have up to three Utility Equipment Glyphs equipped at any one time,

We already know that though. We know that at any time, he could have 3 on him.

but cannot equip any glyphs that are not Utility Equipment Glyphs if he already has one or more glyphs equipped.

According to the rules, we already know this as well. We already know that a figure cannot Equip a glyph if it already has one, whether it is a Utility or not is irrelevant.

I think what you are trying to communicate are two things:

1. Batman can equip a Utility Equipment Glyph even if there are other Utility Equipment Glyphs on this card. "Having" and "Equipping" are significantly different in terms of actually playing.
2. Only a maximum of 3 Utility Equipment Glyphs can be on this card at the same time.

UTILITY BELT
At the start of the game, after Order Markers are placed and before initiative is rolled, you may place up to three Utility Equipment Glyphs on this card. Batman can equip a Utility Equipment Glyph even if there are other Utility Equipment Glyphs on this card, up to a maximum of 3. Batman cannot lose these Equipment Glyphs by any means unless he is destroyed.

1. The second comma is replaced with "and"
2. "of your choice" is kinda obvious
3. Allows Batman to grab other UEGs during game play.
4. Prevents more than 3 UEGs on the card at once.

[tcglkn]

Griffin brings up good points and I think his rewrite covers all the bases you wanted here Bats.

[IAmBatman]

Looks good. Thanks - I'll post it as an update to make post-breathing period.

[IAmBatman]

Oh, if folks could weigh in all official like in bold on mini preferences (feel free to throw out "wait and see about the next Batman clix release" as an option) that'd be awesome and much appreciated.

[tcglkn]

I like miniature option #3 because he has the Utility Belt prominently featured on the figure unless the new Batman figure looks nice.

So out of our current options, I prefer #3.

[Margloth]

I like everything I see here. Mini 3 is ScubaBatman, so should not realistically be chosen.

I like the one where he's on the perch, but it's kinda weird that it matches the art on Bats 1.0. I think I prefer wait to see the movie mini, honestly, with standing on perch mini being a close second.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

I like miniature option #3 because he has the Utility Belt prominently featured on the figure unless the new Batman figure looks nice.

So out of our current options, I prefer #3.

[B0LD][/BOLD]

[Margloth]

But isn't 3 wearing a scuba mask?