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Old September 25th, 2010, 04:52 PM
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Frost Giant of Morh pre release discussion

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Indomitable. If this Frost Giant of Morh begins its turn unengaged, add 2 to its Move value this turn. If it begins its turn engaged, add 2 to its Attack value this turn.

Battle Frenzy. After attacking with this Frost Giant of Morh, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 16 or higher, you may attack again with this Frost Giant of Morh.

Dying Swipe. If this Frost Giant of Morh is attacked with a normal attack by an opponent's figure and receives enough wounds to be destroyed, roll 3 attack dice. One at a time for each skull rolled, you may inflict 1 wound on any figure that is adjacent to this Frost Giant of Morh. Figures affected by Dying Swipe cannot roll any defense dice and can receive more than 1 wound each. After using Dying Swipe, remove this Frost Giant of Morh from the battlefield.

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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

I want 3. This guy will make a great front line. Better yet, use the rats first, then send in Jack Frost here for a second strike.

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Here's a better picture of the card.



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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

Interesting... perhaps the first uncommon who is truly effective in multiples... I think 3 or so of these guys could play well with a solid ranged unit (Krav). Simple strategy... you don't have to think much when multiple scenarios give your unit a boost and his powers keep your opponent scrambling.

Still, often only 1 attack per OM.
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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

I like him as an anti-squadscape figure. He should counter, or at least challenge, both melee and ranged squads with his bonuses to move & dying swipe.

That said, I still don't think there's any way he can take out his point's worth of stingers/10th/knights etc.

Heroes will often have the special attacks that will protect themselves from Dying Swipe, which would otherwise be deadly. He *should* wipe the floor with heroes like RotV Drake and Braxas, who do not have relevant special attacks.

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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

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Heroes will often have the special attacks that will protect themselves from Dying Swipe, which would otherwise be deadly.
But don't forget: Anybody can give him the deathblow and he can still inflict wounds on anyone adjacent to him. So unless you only attack him with SAs, he's still going to get to use it much of the time.
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Heroes will often have the special attacks that will protect themselves from Dying Swipe, which would otherwise be deadly.
But don't forget: Anybody can give him the deathblow and he can still inflict wounds on anyone adjacent to him. So unless you only attack him with SAs, he's still going to get to use it much of the time.
I read the card to say only the *killing* blow has to be a normal attack to trigger Dying Swipe. So if he's wounded by whatever & staggers up to Kaemon Awa, the samurai hero can polish him off with a coule Quick Releases & he's finished.

I'm just saying I think his powers will tend to hurt squads more than heroes, which is a good thing. In my book.

I'll be glad to have one in my collection. I could be wrong, but I (right now, with two margaritas in me) doubt that he will see much competitive play. He'll go in the Mimring class of units that counter squads a little bit and justify an occasional appearance on the table.

KidScaper & I will have fun with him every now and then and if I get an extra to give to one of his 'Scape playing buddies that's enough for me to justify the purchase.

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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

Does frenzy +1 work on battle frenzy?
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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

I doubt it.
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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

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Does frenzy +1 work on battle frenzy?
My guess is no; under the same consideration that a half-elf doesn't count as an elf, I think powers reference each other by very specific name.

Besides which, its not just the name; they are different powers, with Frenzy allowing you to move as well as attack, so I'd say battle frenzy isn't enhanced by Mittens.

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I read the card to say only the *killing* blow has to be a normal attack to trigger Dying Swipe. So if he's wounded by whatever & staggers up to Kaemon Awa, the samurai hero can polish him off with a coule Quick Releases & he's finished.

I'm just saying I think his powers will tend to hurt squads more than heroes, which is a good thing. In my book.

I'll be glad to have one in my collection. I could be wrong, but I (right now, with two margaritas in me) doubt that he will see much competitive play. He'll go in the Mimring class of units that counter squads a little bit and justify an occasional appearance on the table.

KidScaper & I will have fun with him every now and then and if I get an extra to give to one of his 'Scape playing buddies that's enough for me to justify the purchase.
Correct, he needs to be *destroyed* by a normal attack to use Dying Swipe. If his last wound is done in by a special attack, he doesn't get to use it, regardless of how many enemies are adjacent to him and regardless of how many normal attacks he was wounded by along the way.

Its not meant to be something you'll get to use all the time; its something designed to get your opponent thinking/worrying/changing their approach. A Heavy Grut or Knight army will be more hesitant to just send 3-4 melee squad figures in to finish a Frost Giant off because of the threat dying swipe has.
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Does frenzy +1 work on battle frenzy?
Death Knight does not equal knight. Half Elf does not equal elf. Battle Frenzy does not equal frenzy.

Or at least that's how I read it.



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Re: Ice Giant of Morh pre release discussion

Thanks for the preview Ollie.


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