C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

[Dad_Scaper]

I just want to say that, if Heracles counters the Hydra, we really could not possibly have done better than that. Brings a smile to my face: .

[dok]

Originally Posted by Jexik

I guess Fen Hydra isn't as big of a problem as I make it out to be, but at just 120 points, it's definitely pretty splashable to deal with problematic match-ups.

I mean, you don't have to convince me of that.

Originally Posted by heroscaper2010

Both of them can convert their points plus a bit more with ease. Opening up with MW against melee can really stall a melee army's progression/map control while the MW can take control of the whole map fairly easily with 6-move/range.

I honestly think Isamu is the most broken figure in the game, we just don't collectively notice it because punching 30 points over your weight doesn't stand out when you're only 10 points.

The Marro Warriors are capable of producing a near auto-win in endgame in a significant number of matchups, even against what should be overwhelming odds. They can also tilt matchups with their range and kiting ability well before endgame. As a value pick for 50 they really are insane.

[Heroscaper Guy]

Originally Posted by dok

I mean, you don't have to convince me of that.

I honestly think Isamu is the most broken figure in the game, we just don't collectively notice it because punching 30 points over your weight doesn't stand out when you're only 10 points.

The Marro Warriors are capable of producing a near auto-win in endgame in a significant number of matchups, even against what should be overwhelming odds. They can also tilt matchups with their range and kiting ability well before endgame. As a value pick for 50 they really are insane.

Plus if they lose one or two in the endgame, they can spread across the map and clone to be more annoying.

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by dok

I honestly think Isamu is the most broken figure in the game, we just don't collectively notice it because punching 30 points over your weight doesn't stand out when you're only 10 points.

Yeah I guess... but my issue with him is the same as Marcu. He's just not a good spot for your order markers most of the time. You can have him in your army and spend an entire tournament never activating him, especially if you're winning your games already. He's just never going to be the core component of an army or even your strategy.


But I guess if you're talking "killed 4-10x his points in 1 game this afternoon" as being grounds for A+, okay.


Orcelfarmyone has the Marro Warriors as an A+ already. It's neat to see a master set unique squad with that much respect, even after all these years.

[flameslayer93]

But I guess if you're talking "killed 4-10x his points in 1 game this afternoon" as being grounds for A+, okay.

Isamu’s earned well over 10x his points for me. To the tune of 30x, giving me a win in a tournement game after my Kurrok got Mindshackled. It’s not often that it happens, but it is a factor. A+ might be high, but A is still a good spot for a wildcard unit with almost no investment requirements.

[Sir Dendrik]

How do people feel about the Wildwood army? From the 10ish games I've played with them I have seen them shut out armies with B or lower units, and go toe to toe with some high ranked units. I'd probably give them an A.

[Dysole]

I think Wildwoods are B+ if both players know what they're doing but they can easily be an A if the opponent doesn't know to target runners. They can also be a C+ if the Wildwood player doesn't protect runners well. Wildwoods want anything they can grind out. They don't like anything that hits really hard and can be super mobile.

~Dysole, piecing it together