Classic Heroscape Power Rankings

[Jexik]

I'm really intrigued by the Granite Guardians though. It seems like their special power will force you to play them kind of smart (slow-rolling them). I can see them just dominating the important parts of a map.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, but can you afford enough of them to make up for the ones that will get picked off from range?

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Yeah, but can you afford enough of them to make up for the ones that will get picked off from range?

1. Won't be that easy to pick them off from range.
2. Get your own range. Sprinkle some Krav, Kaemon, AE, or MW, and I think your problem is solved.

[IAmBatman]

I could definitely see Krav being a good play with these guys. Maybe Krav + Raelin + Marcu (for glyphs) + GGs x3 at 500? Hard to kill from range, able to shoot back, and able to control the map pretty well and get that much needed range. On maps with a lot of road they'll be able to get to melee faster, but on maps that are too fast, they'll struggle to be as competitive since height advantage seems key.

Edit: Or would Rats x2 be a better play than Raelin?

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Edit: Or would Rats x2 be a better play than Raelin?

Not unless the glyph pool is really strong. Raelin works well with slow-rollers. The GG's are tough enough that you shouldn't be too worried about them getting hit with 7 or 8 defense. Someone will get frustrated and start attacking Raelin- if you place her right, that 3 range toss should be enough to hit back... hard.

Gbob says they're good with Raelin, so I trust him on that.

[ElvenEnvy]

Originally Posted by Jexik

For anyone who's wondering, I'm not going to make any power rankings for the new Wave 10 guys until I get a chance to play them, and face them and/or read about some tournament results with them.

My gut feeling on both squads is that they're in that Wave 9 zone of "pretty good, but not broken." With the GG's maybe 1/3 of a grade higher than the Quasatch... but we'll see.

Do you suspect a bump for Warden 816 coming?

It will be interesting to see if the +1 move helps as much in a real game as it does in theoryscape.

[IAmBatman]

I think Warden's too hard to fit in a 500 point army with them, though. Because you're always going to want Raelin over him, and you're going to need more range, so often you're going to be left choosing between Warden or another set of Granite Guardians and it seems like the latter is more useful since slow be "en mass" is kind of their thing.
I guess if you wanted to try to play them more aggressively, though, you could ditch Raelin for Warden, but it just doesn't seem as powerful to me.

[ElvenEnvy]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I think Warden's too hard to fit in a 500 point army with them, though. Because you're always going to want Raelin over him, and you're going to need more range, so often you're going to be left choosing between Warden or another set of Granite Guardians and it seems like the latter is more useful since slow be "en mass" is kind of their thing.
I guess if you wanted to try to play them more aggressively, though, you could ditch Raelin for Warden, but it just doesn't seem as powerful to me.

It also might depend on the map. If there's any highly usable road, they'll be going at a good pace, and it would more sense to add to that pace with Warden. While on a Roadless map they'll have no problems with staying in Raelins Aura.

[Grungebob]

Originally Posted by Jexik

Not unless the glyph pool is really strong. Raelin works well with slow-rollers. The GG's are tough enough that you shouldn't be too worried about them getting hit with 7 or 8 defense. Someone will get frustrated and start attacking Raelin- if you place her right, that 3 range toss should be enough to hit back... hard.

Gbob says they're good with Raelin, so I trust him on that.

Oh c'mon what army isn't better with Raelin. She is to Heroscape what "wrapped in bacon" is to the food industry.

[ElvenEnvy]

Originally Posted by Grungebob

Oh c'mon what army isn't better with Raelin. She is to Heroscape what "wrapped in bacon" is to the food industry.

I think I'm going to call the two extra dice from Raelin "wrapped in bacon" and "deep-fried" from now on.

[Warlord Alpha]

Originally Posted by Grungebob

Oh c'mon what army isn't better with Raelin. She is to Heroscape what "wrapped in bacon" is to the food industry.

Jexik, you should totally put that under the little explanation for Raelin's grade
This quote is too awesome not to be shown somewhere.

[dok]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I could definitely see Krav being a good play with these guys. Maybe Krav + Raelin + Marcu (for glyphs) + GGs x3 at 500? Hard to kill from range, able to shoot back, and able to control the map pretty well and get that much needed range.

That's exactly the army I see them working well in, as well.