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Old December 29th, 2011, 02:20 PM
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

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1) I was thinking that Circuitry Overload could be used against:
  • Counter Strike
  • Evil Eye Defense (Gurei-Oni)
  • Evil Eye Protection (Torin)
  • Arcane Riposte (Sharwin Wildborn)
Is there a reason why they aren't in the list ?
You're right! I've pointed that out before, but forgot about it when I made the book.

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2) As you pointed out for Poison Weapons (Deepwyrm Drow), I think that all subsequent wounds inflicted by Mortal Strike (Master of the Hunt) would be subject to Circuitry Replacement.
It's also a special power which modifies an attack, but it's not an attack.
(Of course, the only case to consider for now would be a MotH inflicting 1 wound to Warden and then rolling a skull with Mortal Strike)
Correct again! And correct that, currently, the Warden is the only case where this matters.

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3) You have forgotten to check the C3V figures: Opportunity Strike (Zogross) should be added to the list.

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Circuitry Overload doesn't work against Rail Gun (Zaeus).
Zaeus is a perfect counterdraft against Soulborg Hero(es) + Zettian Infantry: killing a ZI adjacent to DW9000 with Rail Gun could also kill DW9000 !
I did quickly look through the C3V figures, but forgot about Opportunity Strike for some reason. I did think about the powerful potential of Rail Gun against these guys.

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I will update the book of Kira Jax because Exploit Weakness can be used to negate Circuitry Overload before attacking a Soulborg Hero adjacent to a ZI.
I did consider this as well - it's true that she can turn off Circuitry Replacement, but given that she doesn't have any way to wound a figure aside from attacking, it's not relevant in this case. I suppose if you're playing a C3G/C3V mixed game, and Kira negated the ZIs, then attacked Warden 816, who was moved by Angel, and then a Nakita got an engagement strike on 816 where he landed, but 816 was next to a ZI, then it would matter. OK, now my brain hurts...
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Old December 29th, 2011, 02:30 PM
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

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I will update the book of Kira Jax because Exploit Weakness can be used to negate Circuitry Overload before attacking a Soulborg Hero adjacent to a ZI.
I did consider this as well - it's true that she can turn off Circuitry Replacement, but given that she doesn't have any way to wound a figure aside from attacking, it's not relevant in this case. I suppose if you're playing a C3G/C3V mixed game, and Kira negated the ZIs, then attacked Warden 816, who was moved by Angel, and then a Nakita got an engagement strike on 816 where he landed, but 816 was next to a ZI, then it would matter. OK, now my brain hurts...
Yes, Kira can negate Circuitry Overload, but in all (normal) cases, it will not help.
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Old December 29th, 2011, 02:55 PM
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

This is a great squad - the best Super Battledroid squad I've ever seen. I hate to beat a dead horse, but they really are a highly recognizable Star Wars creation. They're all over Episode 3, the Animated series and the Clone Wars. They even talk in Episode 3, holding R2D2 hostage until he does that neat little "go go gadget oil slick" trick. There are a lot of these minis available since they were a SWM common. If you find something less recognizable, it might be better.

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Old December 29th, 2011, 11:21 PM
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

Pre-painted plastic minis are not always readily available, so we agreed of all the "Star Wars" droids, these were the least recognizable. I realize there are going to be Fanboys out there who are going to protest, but we have use what is available and meets our criteria and these did.

As a huge Star Wars fan myself, I can look past their likeness for the betterment of Fanscape, but that is for each individual to decide.

These are the figures that were approved for this card, if you find something else you like; feel free to proxy, especially if you like dok's design. But we cannot guarantee a Tournament Director of a C3V/SoV event will except your proxies.

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But we cannot guarantee a Tournament Director of a C3V/SoV event will except your proxies.
Right, because there is no official structure, but certainly a polite inquiry to your local TD ahead of time has a good chance of yielding a positive response.

Anyway. To each his own. I would love for everyone to think these guys are as great as I do, but I certainly understand if some people are not, for whatever reason, happy with the mini.

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Old December 30th, 2011, 01:08 AM
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

How recognizable these guys are to you is going to vary. When I made the squad, I didn't remember them from the movies at all. When I (half-)watched the movies again more recently, of course I noticed them every time they showed up... which is not all the time, but they are in a few scenes.

At the end of the day, there just aren't a ton of options for soulborg common squads.
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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

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How recognizable these guys are to you is going to vary. When I made the squad, I didn't remember them from the movies at all. When I (half-)watched the movies again more recently, of course I noticed them every time they showed up... which is not all the time, but they are in a few scenes.

At the end of the day, there just aren't a ton of options for soulborg common squads.
I find them quite recognizable, but I personally find it cool to have Super Battle Droids in Heroscape. Now to get some of them...

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Re: The Book of Zettian Infantry

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I don't go on this forum very often, but I am an active member of the french forum that you may know because of Dalu !

We noticed something : Would Sujoah's Poison Sting Special Attack be subject to Circuitry Replacement ? If Poison Weapon is, I guess it's okay...

The thing is that it could be considered part of a special attack, but it is not the attack itself that inflicts the additional wound, it is a special power that is ''added to it''.

My interpretation is probably wrong but whatever.
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The only issue I have with this guys is that they are very recognizable figure from Star Wars. They don't seem to mesh well to me.
Yeah, it is the same with me for:
  • Syvarris (Legolas in LotR)
  • Agent Carr (Samual Jackson/Nick Shield)
  • KMA (Matrix agents)
  • Nakitas (Charlie's Angels)
  • Quasatch Hunters (Harry and the Hendersons)
  • Weston Knights (Excalibur)
...But I use them anyways.

As a big Warden 816 fan, I have enjoyed these guys since I first saw the card. Repulsors love them, too.
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While recognizable, and from my perspective a bit slender compared to Heroscape soulborgs, the fact that they are available in good quantity is far preferable to having no additional soulborgs. There simply aren't many options for sci-fi themed figures currently in reasonable quantities particularly with multiple sculpts.
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We noticed something : Would Sujoah's Poison Sting Special Attack be subject to Circuitry Replacement ? If Poison Weapon is, I guess it's okay...

The thing is that it could be considered part of a special attack, but it is not the attack itself that inflicts the additional wound, it is a special power that is ''added to it''.

My interpretation is probably wrong but whatever.
As you say, the poison wounding in Sujoah's and Estivara's special attacks is part of the attack. So Circuitry Replacement does not apply.

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