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Old July 7th, 2019, 08:48 PM
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson)

Updated: 6 July 2019 - Captain Marvel (Mary) - Shared Power of Shazam!
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Design Phase

OK, I'm officially opening Mary here up for a reevaluation per a vote in the Sanctum.


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NAME = CAPTAIN MARVEL
SECRET IDENTITY = MARY BATSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = CHARMING

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 330


SOLOMON, HERCULES, AND ATLAS
If there is at least one Order Marker on this card, you may add 3 to your initiative roll and, if you win initiative, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

ZEUS AND ACHILLES
If Captain Marvel attacks a figure without the Magical Defense special power and the player controlling that figure rolls the 20-sided die for any special power on the defending figure’s Army Card, you may add or subtract 3 from the roll.

MERCURY
If Captain Marvel uses her Flying special power for her entire movement and moves at least two spaces, she may add 2 to her Move and Attack numbers this turn.

SHAZAM: SHARED POWER
Once per round, after revealing an Order Marker on this card, before taking a turn with Captain Marvel, you may take a turn with up to two other figures you control that are either a Human Captain Marvel or that have a SHAZAM special power. You may not take additional turns with other figures you control. During this player turn, all figures you control subtract one die from their attack.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING
Below is what I plan to test. Anyone have any concerns before I get to it (probably won't be for a few days) or anything in particular they want to see in the tests?

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

Shazam!
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Old June 28th, 2022, 02:43 PM
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

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Shazam!
Do you think we should add the ! to the keyword? I was worried it'd look pretty crazy right before a colon.

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

Well Shazam can't be used because of Black Alice. We already covered this.
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

I'm cool with rolling with SHAZAM! for the keyword.

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

Should we be making a ruling or official vote on how power tags are to be handled and interpreted to avoid this issue one way or the other? Personally, I think that interpretation is potentially troublesome.

For instance, "a Shazam special power" should only include powers that are simply [Shazam] + [:] which initiates the power tag to begin with. That's how how I suggest we standardize how power tags work. The interpretation that any power that happens to have the word "Shazam" in it would then be included, is not an ideal foundation to run with, 10,000 design foresight, IMO.

Just as "a ? special power" should not include anything with a ? in it, only special powers that are specifically [?: ____], or if we said "a Justice special power", it'd just be "Justice: _______" rather than anything that happened to have the word "Justice" in it too.

That interpretation would also spawn the question, what happens if we had a tag that is "a Power of Shazam special power"? Would that make it apply to both "a Shazam special power" tag and "a Power of Shazam special power" tag? Just seems messy.

Whichever way this is decided, I do feel like the Rules team or Heroes or something should be determining how this is standardized rather than just picking an interpretation ourselves and rolling with it. That's how we end up with different interpretations of friendly, turn vs. player turn, may vs. must & default etc.
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

I think standardizing power tags in that way is not logical and will be confusing for a lot of our casual fans. It’s a bad road to go down. If I see a power reference “a Shazam special power”, I’m gonna search for any power that has the word Shazam in the title and assume that Black Alice works with the design.

It’s probably more ideal for us if power tags work the way you describe but I think that leads to a much worse end product for the casual fans which we definitely have plenty of out there.
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

I think it's a conversation worth having in a different thread, yes.

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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

We also have to realize that SHAZAM! also already exists as a power, on civie Billy. I think it’s even more confusing to say “a SHAZAM! special power” and have that not count the SHAZAM! special power.
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We also have to realize that SHAZAM! also already exists as a power, on civie Billy. I think it’s even more confusing to say “a SHAZAM! special power” and have that not count the SHAZAM! special power.
That was part of my lean toward including the Exclamation mark. Its fine if he works, and also fine if he doesn't, so ruling one way or the other doesn't really break anything when it comes to his inclusion.
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Re: The Book of Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Re-Initializi

Exclamation mark it is. I'll probably avoid him in testing so whichever way it's sorted out won't impact the results.

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