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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
While I'm suggesting basic stats... 5/4/2/5.
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
Is there a reason Healing Waters is after taking a turn? That's a problematic placement. Why not "after moving and before attacking?"
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1. Are we recycling a unit name? No 2. Are we recycling a power name? No 3. If we are reusing an existing power, is the wording exactly the same? N/A 4. What happens when the powers are negated (Rod of Negation, Exploit Weakness)? Rod of Negation turns all land spaces that Nephda converted back to land, and Nephda can no longer use Healing Waters. Exploit Weakness can temporarily turn all land spaces converted by Nephda back to land. Do any powers continue to have effects after being negated? No Is this clear from the wording? 5. Should the powers affect destructible objects? Healing Waters is not a power that deals wounds, so it does not affect DOs. Carried by Waves can affect DOs in that the spaces will be water, if that matters. 6. Do any of the powers unintentionally synergize with other players' units? Carried by Waves can synergize with any units that like water; that is intentional. Both powers can intentionally affect friendly units. 7. Do the powers allow turn stacking? No 8. Are any of the powers conditional on a future event? No Is that future event inevitable or avoidable? 9. Does it have a d20 power? Yes If is a small, medium, or large Unique Hero, how does it interact with Mystic Sacrifice? Mystic Sacrifice could be used to increase the Healing Waters roll. If Mystic Sacrifice is used when Healing Waters is being used to heal Myrddin, does Myrddin die before being healed? I don't think the timing is clear, but it's pretty much pointless because wounding oneself 1 or 2 to heal oneself 1 is foolish. If it is Tricky, how does it interact with Queen of Thieves? N/A If it is Undead, how does it interact with Curse of the Mummy? N/A 10. Do the powers create out-of-turn attacks? No 11. Are any powers conditional on the source of damage? No 12. Are any powers expected to work after all figures have been destroyed? No If so, is that clearly worded? How does it interact with revivals, via Glyph of Sturla or otherwise? 13. Do any powers that decrease attack or defense dice introduce a new minimum value (other than zero)? N/A 14. Do any powers change a Range value from 3 or less to 4 or greater or vice versa? No 15. Do any powers act unexpectedly in multiplayer games? No, Carried by Waves affects all figures intentionally, and both powers can help friendly figures intentionally. 16. Do any powers place other figures on this card? No If so, how does it interact with other place-on-card powers (Animated Materiel, Cling, Dwarven Gunners, Warriors Armor Spirit, Warriors Attack Spirit, Warrior's Swiftness Spirit, Necromancy)? 17. Does a power trigger off of an Order Marker being revealed on another Army Card? No If so, is the power expected to trigger if all figures associated with that Army Card have been destroyed? 18. Is it clear which powers are mandatory and which are optional? It's fairly clear that the first half of Carried by Waves is mandatory, and the second half is essentially optional. When choosing to use Healing Waters, can the player attempt to heal some heroes but not others? What part is optional, the use of the power, or each individual roll? 19. How do the powers interact with the Marro Hive? Nothing special. 20. If the unit is a Soulborg squad who follows Jandar, how do the powers interact with Directed Fire? N/A 21. If the unit is a Common Orc squad, how does it interact with Incantation of Boiling Blood? N/A 22. Does any power's name or wording unintentionally prohibit the power's reusability? No 23. Does the text fit reasonably well on a card? Yes Use this tool to check: https://www.heroscapers.com/xorlof/x2cc. Capitalization Checklist: Army Card wound marker terrain Style Checklist: 1. Species is always singular for Heroes and plural for Squads, except Human and Soulborg are always singular. 'Nymph' is singular. 2. Class is always singular for Heroes and plural for Squads. 'Protector' is singular. 3. For Heroes with a name like {name} the {optional adjective} {noun}, use the full name for the first instance in each power description, and only the first {name} thereafter. N/A 4. Single-space, not single-spaced; double-space, not double-spaced. N/A 5. Always add 's' after an apostrophe for a singular possessive, even if the possessor ends in 's' or 'z'. "Nephda's" and "figure's" are correct. 6. Special attacks should have a newline between the Range/Attack line and the description. N/A Unique Card Checklist: 1. How does it interact with Enslave/Moon Frenzy? It is unclear if Nepha could use Healing Waters during an Enslave/Moon Frenzy turn since it happens after the turn, when control would return to the original owner. 2. How does it interact with Mind Shackle/Soul Devour? Nothing special. Movement Power Checklist: 1. Does it allow leaving engagement attacks? N/A 2. How does it interact with Engagement Strike/Ice Spikes/Braced Spear? N/A 3. How does it interact with Slippery? N/A 4. How does it interact with Cyberclaw/Improved Cyberclaw? N/A 5. How does it interact with Swirling Vortex? N/A 6. Is there any way the figure can be forced to end its movement on an illegal space? No. As the spaces around Nephda are water, they cannot be entered if the figure would be forced to illegally stop there. 7. Is it a space-by-space move power, or a teleport-like place power? N/A Is it clear in the power which one it is? 8. How does it interact with bonus movement powers, such as Movement Bonding or Jandar's Dispatch? Carried by Waves, both the first and second half, can affect bonus movements. 9. How does it interact with Shield Push? N/A 10. How does it interact with Maneuver? N/A 11. How does it interact with Steadfast? N/A 12. How does it interact with Flying/Stealth Flying? A figure that is flying past Nephda would not pick up the Carried by Waves movement bonus unless they land because they would not become adjacent to Nephda. 13. How does it interact with Levitation? N/A 14. How does it interact with Prepare the Charge? Nothing special. 15. How does it interact with Maddening Visage? N/A 16. How does it interact with Long Strides? Nothing special. Aura Power Checklist: 1. Is the aura intended to affect the figure with the aura? Yes and no Is this clear? Carried by Waves affects the space below Nephda, and the second half affects her. Healing Waters does not affect Nephda due to "other." 2. If one member of a squad is within the aura, are the other squad members unintentionally affected? N/A End of Turn Power Checklist: 1. How does it interact with Cold Healing/Cold Regenerate/Regenerate? N/A 2. How does it interact with Frenzy? N/A 3. How does it interact with Hyper Speed? N/A 4. How does it interact with Jandar's Dispatch? N/A 5. How does it interact with Overextend Attack? N/A 6. How does it interact with Stab in the Back? N/A 7. How does it interact with Summon the Rechets of Bogdan? N/A 8. How does it interact with end-of-turn bonding powers? If such a power affected Nephda, there would be trouble with Healing Waters. 9. How does it interact with Divine Mission/Labors/Guerrilla Tactics? N/A 10. How does it interact with Undead Legion/Flocking? N/A 11. How does it interact with Enslave/Command Dispatch/Heavy Support Command Beacon? It is unclear if Nepha could use Healing Waters during an Enslave/Moon Frenzy turn since it happens after the turn, when control would return to the original owner. 12. How does it interact with EMP Response? N/A 13. How does it interact with Growing Heat? N/A 14. How does it interact with Furious Wrath? N/A 15. How does it interact with Marching Orders? N/A 16. How does it interact with Enraged? N/A 17. How does it interact with Hunting Party N/A? 18. How does it interact with Piercing Scream? N/A 19. How does it interact with Corrupted Programming? N/A |
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
I see no reason changing the timing would be an issue. Wording can probably be helped by using Shaolin Assault. Putting that together:
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
@Scytale
Thanks for pointing that out! I see no reason why Healing Waters shouldn't be an after moving and before attacking power. Does Necro's proposed revision look good to you? If so, I'd be good with
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to update the OP and then proceed to playtesting (unless there's something else I've missed).
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
Yeah I'm good with it.
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
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@Scytale , whenever you get the chance to re-run the checklist with this new version of the power just let me know and I'll relink the checklist before we proceed to Playtesting. Thanks all! |
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
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1. Are we recycling a unit name? No 2. Are we recycling a power name? No 3. If we are reusing an existing power, is the wording exactly the same? N/A 4. What happens when the powers are negated (Rod of Negation, Exploit Weakness)? Rod of Negation turns all land spaces that Nephda converted back to land, and Nephda can no longer use Healing Waters. Exploit Weakness can temporarily turn all land spaces converted by Nephda back to land. Do any powers continue to have effects after being negated? No Is this clear from the wording? 5. Should the powers affect destructible objects? Healing Waters is not a power that deals wounds, so it does not affect DOs. Carried by Waves can affect DOs in that the spaces will be water, if that matters. 6. Do any of the powers unintentionally synergize with other players' units? Carried by Waves can synergize with any units that like water; that is intentional. Both powers can intentionally affect friendly units. 7. Do the powers allow turn stacking? No 8. Are any of the powers conditional on a future event? No Is that future event inevitable or avoidable? 9. Does it have a d20 power? Yes If is a small, medium, or large Unique Hero, how does it interact with Mystic Sacrifice? Mystic Sacrifice could be used to increase the Healing Waters roll. If Mystic Sacrifice is used when Healing Waters is being used to heal Myrddin, does Myrddin die before being healed? I don't think the timing is clear, but it's pretty much pointless because wounding oneself 1 or 2 to heal oneself 1 is foolish. If it is Tricky, how does it interact with Queen of Thieves? N/A If it is Undead, how does it interact with Curse of the Mummy? N/A 10. Do the powers create out-of-turn attacks? No 11. Are any powers conditional on the source of damage? No 12. Are any powers expected to work after all figures have been destroyed? No If so, is that clearly worded? How does it interact with revivals, via Glyph of Sturla or otherwise? 13. Do any powers that decrease attack or defense dice introduce a new minimum value (other than zero)? N/A 14. Do any powers change a Range value from 3 or less to 4 or greater or vice versa? No 15. Do any powers act unexpectedly in multiplayer games? No, Carried by Waves affects all figures intentionally, and both powers can help friendly figures intentionally. 16. Do any powers place other figures on this card? No If so, how does it interact with other place-on-card powers (Animated Materiel, Cling, Dwarven Gunners, Warriors Armor Spirit, Warriors Attack Spirit, Warrior's Swiftness Spirit, Necromancy)? 17. Does a power trigger off of an Order Marker being revealed on another Army Card? No If so, is the power expected to trigger if all figures associated with that Army Card have been destroyed? 18. Is it clear which powers are mandatory and which are optional? It's fairly clear that the first half of Carried by Waves is mandatory, and the second half is essentially optional. Healing Waters is clearly optional. 19. How do the powers interact with the Marro Hive? Nothing special. 20. If the unit is a Soulborg squad who follows Jandar, how do the powers interact with Directed Fire? N/A 21. If the unit is a Common Orc squad, how does it interact with Incantation of Boiling Blood? N/A 22. Does any power's name or wording unintentionally prohibit the power's reusability? No 23. Does the text fit reasonably well on a card? Yes Use this tool to check: https://www.heroscapers.com/xorlof/x2cc. Capitalization Checklist: Army Card wound marker terrain Style Checklist: 1. Species is always singular for Heroes and plural for Squads, except Human and Soulborg are always singular. 'Nymph' is singular. 2. Class is always singular for Heroes and plural for Squads. 'Protector' is singular. 3. For Heroes with a name like {name} the {optional adjective} {noun}, use the full name for the first instance in each power description, and only the first {name} thereafter. N/A 4. Single-space, not single-spaced; double-space, not double-spaced. N/A 5. Always add 's' after an apostrophe for a singular possessive, even if the possessor ends in 's' or 'z'. "Nephda's" and "figure's" are correct. 6. Special attacks should have a newline between the Range/Attack line and the description. N/A Unique Card Checklist: 1. How does it interact with Enslave/Moon Frenzy? Nothing special. 2. How does it interact with Mind Shackle/Soul Devour? Nothing special. Movement Power Checklist: 1. Does it allow leaving engagement attacks? N/A 2. How does it interact with Engagement Strike/Ice Spikes/Braced Spear? N/A 3. How does it interact with Slippery? N/A 4. How does it interact with Cyberclaw/Improved Cyberclaw? N/A 5. How does it interact with Swirling Vortex? N/A 6. Is there any way the figure can be forced to end its movement on an illegal space? No. As the spaces around Nephda are water, they cannot be entered if the figure would be forced to illegally stop there. 7. Is it a space-by-space move power, or a teleport-like place power? N/A Is it clear in the power which one it is? 8. How does it interact with bonus movement powers, such as Movement Bonding or Jandar's Dispatch? Carried by Waves, both the first and second half, can affect bonus movements. 9. How does it interact with Shield Push? N/A 10. How does it interact with Maneuver? N/A 11. How does it interact with Steadfast? N/A 12. How does it interact with Flying/Stealth Flying? A figure that is flying past Nephda would not pick up the Carried by Waves movement bonus unless they land because they would not become adjacent to Nephda. 13. How does it interact with Levitation? N/A 14. How does it interact with Prepare the Charge? Nothing special. 15. How does it interact with Maddening Visage? N/A 16. How does it interact with Long Strides? Nothing special. Aura Power Checklist: 1. Is the aura intended to affect the figure with the aura? Yes and no Is this clear? Carried by Waves affects the space below Nephda, and the second half affects her. Healing Waters does not affect Nephda due to "other." 2. If one member of a squad is within the aura, are the other squad members unintentionally affected? N/A |
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
I see no editing issues. I believe this design is ready to move on to the Balance Testing Phase.
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Re: [Pod 2] The Book of Nephda (Kiora the Rising Tide) - Edi
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![]() Many thanks for re-running the checklist, @Scytale . I've updated the OP with the suggested FAQs and added the checklist link. |
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