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Old August 16th, 2021, 06:46 PM
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After any figure receives one or more wounds, you may move any 2 Journalist Heroes you control that did not receive those wounds up to 4 spaces each. A figure moved this way will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
I think you struck out "spaces" above when you shouldn't have.

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Once per game, at the start of a round before rolling for initative, if you control at least one Kryptonian Champion, you may choose to add 20 to your initiativewin initiative for that round. If you do, you may then choose an opponent's figure engaged with a Journalist you control. That opponent must either immediately reveal and remove the lowest numbered Order Marker from that figure's card or place one wound on the figure's card.
What's the idea behind the last part in red where they can place a wound? Forcing the enemy to choose to wound themselves feels like it's stretching the theme a bit here. Is there a concern that line is trying to address?

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Old August 16th, 2021, 06:49 PM
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Re: The Book of Perry White

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After any figure receives one or more wounds, you may move any 2 Journalist Heroes you control that did not receive those wounds up to 4 spaces each. A figure moved this way will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
I think you struck out "spaces" above when you shouldn't have.
Whoops. I'll fix that when I update.

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Once per game, at the start of a round before rolling for initative, if you control at least one Kryptonian Champion, you may choose to add 20 to your initiativewin initiative for that round. If you do, you may then choose an opponent's figure engaged with a Journalist you control. That opponent must either immediately reveal and remove the lowest numbered Order Marker from that figure's card or place one wound on the figure's card.
What's the idea behind the last part in red where they can place a wound? Forcing the enemy to choose to wound themselves feels like it's stretching the theme a bit here. Is there a concern that line is trying to address?
I suppose "inflict" would be better wording there to get the theme of kinda "get distracted or get sucker punched".

Basically, Lois is a really strong addition to Superman. Since she moves for free at the start of the round, after Order Markers are place, but before rolling for initiative, she can literally run at the dude who has a bunch of OMs, then you win initiative and Superman is likely to get 4 turns because of the doubles she gives.
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Old August 16th, 2021, 08:13 PM
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Re: The Book of Perry White (Initial Posted)

So it does a strong thing once per game? Seems reasonable for the Perry/Lois/Supes investment.

Not a fan of the added complexity of the one wound and it feels like it’s stretching and abstracting the theme even more.

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Initial Posted)

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So it does a strong thing once per game? Seems reasonable for the Perry/Lois/Supes investment.

Not a fan of the added complexity of the one wound and it feels like itís stretching and abstracting the theme even more.
Then I'd probably rather move to a new way to play out the theme. Lois is already a very strong unit, and the mechanical synergy there just lends to the pairing a bit too much. I don't want to see him eating some of the cost of that pairing. Potentially 4 attacks with no reaction from the opponent, meanwhile you're getting to move Lois into better positioning to keep Kal attacking? That's very strong for 130 points on your Superman when you're already getting the benefit from Lois in a lot of situations. A flip version of it that lends itself more to Perry than just Lois would be:

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Once per game, at the start of the round before Order Markers are placed, if you control at least one Kryptonian Champion, you may choose to add 20 to your initiative. If you do, your opponent may not place a "1" Order Marker on the card of a figure engaged with a Journalist you control.
Moving it to preventing placement rather than a removal. But I also may just be being overly cautious of things. I think in small games like this, getting Lois early doesn't seem as tough, but she's a lot easier to hide/protect in bigger games.
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Re: The Book of Perry White (Initial Posted)

I mean, personally I think that Perry shining the best in his most thematic pairing (Lois, Superman, Perry) and being able to do something once per game that's strong is a win (makes him draftable, hits theme, etc.). I'd be fine with his eating some cost of being good in his most thematic pairing.

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Initial Posted)

Basically, I just really like him at 30. He may honestly still be coming under that right now, with the Lois pairing actually getting him there. Like I said, was hard to really tell with how ridiculous some of my Heat Vision rolls were in those last games. I'm thinking what I have there is a decent tone down in the event it is a bit much (as it does very similar things, just modifies timing a bit).


Updating the SP with what I'd originally put there (sans the wound part), unless anyone thinks we need to downplay the Lois pairing sooner rather than later.

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Vote for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Vote for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Vote for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Perry White (Vote for Public Testing)

This passes.
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Re: The Book of Perry White (Public Testing)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: PERRY WHITE
VERSION TESTED
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Army Test
Map: Ivy’s Greenhouse
Units: Perry White (30), Lois Lane (100), Superman (Family) (430), Superboy (II) (240) (800) vs Wrecking Crew (800)
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Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension
Units: Perry White (30), Lois Lane (100), Jimmy Olsen (50), Clark Kent (120), Superman (II) (450), Batman (JL) (250) (1000) vs Hawkwoman (260), Black Canary (JL) (220), Green Arrow (JL) (210), Wonder Woman (JL) (1000)
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His points feel about right to me. Fun addition!

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