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Anitar · #61 September 15th, 2022, 11:36 AM

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DESIGNER'S NOTES - DAY 037 - "THERE ARE NO RULES OF ARCHITECTURE FOR A CASTLE IN THE CLOUDS." - (In his best TV commercial voice) "Modular ruins and fortifications. Scale battlefields to previously unknown proportions, as the Battle For All Time spreads across Valhalla! Looking for that insane multi-layered defensive siege to last all weekend on the dining room table? We Got You! Frustrated those ranged attacks from half way across the battlefield are picking off your melee forces before they can engage? We Got You! Want to recreate the entire outer parameter of Idona Castle across the living room floor? We Got You! Need an Einar's Golden Palace Tournament Setting? We Got You! After all, if it's not built 8 levels high, can you really call it HEROSCAPE?"

URL is "Dream_Big_Mapmakers".

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Originally Posted by gbizzy

Do we have confirmation on whether or not we can make pizza rolls in The Melter Deathforge?

I mean... I guess it's possible from a certain perspective.

So much for "it fits on a peanut base". So, um... Which Valkyrie is bright orange?

Anitar · #62 September 15th, 2022, 11:01 PM

Rapid-fire question time.

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Originally Posted by Intergalactic Patrick

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Originally Posted by Myth26

Patrick, can you answer anything about how the Haslab will run? Personally I’ve never been a part of one, so I have little idea of what to expect and several questions. I have funded Kickstarters though, so I have that as a reference point

Sure. Ask away and I will answer what I can

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Will there be tiers?

If so, can we change our tier level?

It is unlikely there will be tiers this time around.

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Similarly, are there any key differences, in your opinion, between this and a “typical” Haslab project?

Typical Haslab projects are a one and done thing. While there is a ton of amazing things that are a part of the Haslab for Heroscape, we are using it as a chance to relaunch a game system we all love. Once Craig joined our team one of the first things I asked...so how do you think we can get Heroscape to be a thing again? I played with my little brother back in the day, so you can imagine my excitement to meet and work with Craig.

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To clarify, Craig joined the team, and didn’t assemble it?

Craig joined AH, he assembled the Heroscape team
Craig is a hell of a game designer. I met him when he was working on RISK Shadow Forces.

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Originally Posted by Myth26

Do Haslab campaigns generally operate like some Kickstarters, where the items are only available then, and never again, or will the offerings on Oct 1st be available again at a later date?

The Haslab will have elements to it that feel very Kickstarter like with stretch goals and stuff.

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With those stretch goals, if they aren’t met, is that it for them, or will they also act as a preview of future sets and content?
Also, I assume those stretch goals will be optional add-ons, which could change the amount of your pledge. In that way is there some modularity or variability in pledge amount, or is the “all in tier” expected to include the stretch goals at no extra cost?

as the plan is now, the stretch goals would be at no extra cost and just based on how many sets people go for.
just like with Kickstarter, the more people that are into it, the more we can do because of economies of scale and all that jazz

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By how many sets, do you mean there are multiple options for sets and it’s not just one big item?

It's a big box. Clear some shelf space.

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It really is such a big question…. Would all these many figures AND terrain AND trees AND castle pieces all go into one box? Could all that actually fit?

I honestly don't know. Our engineer/packaging team are working on it now TBH.

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(insert many more questions here, mostly from Myth26)

I'll say this before Chris cuts me off...one of the great things about crowdfunding is that we get to see reactions before we go to print. So nothing is "final" until the end.

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Up to this point, we've gotten a steady trickle of information about the new stuff. What will happen to that after the crowdfund, in the time leading up to the actual launch?

We will do our best to keep you updated.

Anitar · #63 September 16th, 2022, 12:26 PM

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I don't know everyone these Valkyrie icons are looking FANTASTIC. (Happy Friday! See everyone on Monday.)

And then there were... eight?

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We've seen Ullar's already

Have You? Because I thought we were still drawing his...

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Not sure propaganda is Revna's style. She is a bit more direct then that, although sometimes speaks is prophetic riddles.

How about Volarak?

More the quiet calculated type.

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are all of the excisting generals gonna come back?
or is one of them getting replaced by revna

Noone was "replaced".

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expecting the dryan to have a new general

I'd expect that too.

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I'm also trying to figure out why Heroscapers who have existing collections, would think factions would only have a single allegiance?

Because the concept was never defined 😩

What if I described "Soulborgs" or "Gruts" as factions? Would it help?

Though there are clearly different teams of soulborgs
That's very specific

Why wouldn't there be different teams of Dryan?

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Still a lot of conceptual stuff going on. Revna enjoys the color orange.

Why is her crest not orange then? Will the colors of the crest be different than the unit colors?

Just conceptual studying right now. Deep breaths.

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Originally Posted by Intergalactic Patrick

10.1 is going to go really indepth on the new factions, mechs, terrain, etc. It's our first chance to show you all (most of) the sculpts and characters.

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Originally Posted by gbizzy

HeroQuest's Haslab campaign was from 9/22/20 to 11/6/20 (45 days) and shipped in the fall of 2021. AH has said that we should look to HeroQuest as an example for how AoA will roll out so I'd say 45 days for the campaign and 1 year until we have product in hand is an accurate guess.

Yea. It's the goal. We won't be able to verify ship date until after the Haslab and tooling start.

One of the reasons we didn't announce the HeroQuest app until after the Haslab campaign is because of the cost of making and maintaining one. We love the idea, and will look into it based on how well the Haslab does. As I said before, just like a Kickstarter, the better it does the more we can do.

Anitar · #64 September 18th, 2022, 12:09 PM

For those who want to know about plastics and such:

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Originally Posted by Chris Nadeau (on Facebook)

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Originally Posted by Tobias Mrosek (also on Facebook)

As my interest in heroscape has been awakened by the rerelease I would like to ask the hivemind, if there has been any information about the material used for the new miniatures.

Please excuse if this has already been discussed, but it really is a big point.

1. Are they hard plastic?
2. Will they come on sprues and need assembly like warhammer models?
3. Will they be softer, bendy plastic like the ones in our new Heroquest?
4. Won´t they share the same bases as the old game?

Thank you for your time and effort. It really helps me out

1. Yes hard plastic, see the most recent Heroquest and other Avalon Hill titles for reference to the durometer of our plastics.
2. Avalon Hill is strictly no sprues, no hobbyist assembly required. One of our primary pillars of design is “accessibility”. We want gamers to be able to crack open a box and be able to play immediately.
3. Yes, but we have improved with our manufacturing since the initial Haslab release of Heroquest, so you should see/feel an improvement. As with every new business, there is a learning period, and the entire extended Hasbro team has been hard at work improving in this particular area.
4. They will not share the same bases as the original game, but will fit appropriately on the hexes (such as the usage of the “peanut base”)

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If you look at Encarmine's answer to question #2 on Facebook this morning he says no assembly will be required (I assume that excludes dragon wings and the like)

Correct, I didn’t say “no assembly” I said no “hobbyist assembly”

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You discussed plastic on the FB. Wondering if there's been any moves towards sustainably sourced stuff (last I heard it was a "not yet, but hopefully in the future")?

Hasbro has not transitioned to sustainable plastics across the company, and there is currently no specific timetable to do so. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the technology or cost has caught up to demand or desire.

We have an entire team dedicated to sustainable sourcing and materials. We are not one of the worlds most ethical companies for no reason.

I think everyone is working on it. I’m just not sure it’s ready for mass roll out.

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Also, the chemist in me is wondering what kind of plastic you are using that will be somewhat bendy (fellow nerds will understand 🤓 )

I’m not sure that is public knowledge, but I can say it meets toy standards in terms of chemicals and sourcing.

Anitar · #65 September 18th, 2022, 06:32 PM

Cross-posting from the CVN Q&A thread...

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Originally Posted by Craig Van Ness

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Originally Posted by Tmac2200

Craig Van Ness, will there be any changes to the genres in HS2.0? For example: historical, fantasy, sci-fi, D&D, horror, among others? One of my favorite things about Heroscape is that it brought every genre to battle.

Also, is there any chance that the Marvel (maybe even DC), or other licensed properties could make a return to the game. Maybe we could see Marvel wave 1 finally hit store shelves?

Heroscape will continue to be a mix of everything. If all goes well, we will keep all our options on the table, including licensed product

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Will the new cards have painted minis or will they be unpainted?

The new cards will have a color image of the figure(s)

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I actually have a real question now

Are there any plans to introduce new terrain shapes? Traditionally, all the maps we make are designed around the 24, 7, 3, 2, and 1 hex pieces. These shapes have an effect on the structure of the maps and they've been predominantly all we have used since the beginning of the game. We did get some new combinations like the bridge piece in RttFF and the two larger road pieces in the castle set, but because most players have so few of them and they are only a single terrain type, their inclusion had a small impact on map design overall.(...)

No new terrain shapes in the Oct 1 Haslab. There will be new terrain pieces.

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Also, is there is any thought to making large area flat hex surfaces? If there is, it would be nice to have them made of flexible plastic or mousepad material or some such. The Arena of the Planeswalkers puzzle cardboard mats warp. I still have and use my lexan water hex mat that someone created some time ago. It would be nice to build on a large shadow or lava base (or who knows what other kind of terrain you guys have planned).

large lexan water mat, I like that idea

Anitar · #66 September 19th, 2022, 11:37 AM

Not today's update. Specifically requested in order to determine whether figures are fused to their bases.

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Originally Posted by Intergalactic Patrick

Marro Feet. You are welcome.

Shape seems consistent with the Marro pirate, who (like every other Dawn Raider) does not serve Utgar anymore.

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Originally Posted by Encarmine

If we're going to rock the boat this early in the week, might as answer the question with more Dawn Raider feet...

URLs are "More_Feet", "And_Even_More_Feet", and "Even_More_Feet", in order.
The purple ones seem to match Pirate Queen Bonny, the yellow ones could plausibly be the dwarf from Gencon, and the blue ones... will be in the next post.

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Somebody asked me if you guys had seen my favorite Dawn Raider yet. I am officially changing my answer from "no" to "yes."

Anitar · #67 September 19th, 2022, 08:50 PM

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So do we know anything about Revna?

She is very mean and cruel.

She does sort of haunt my dreams.

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Someone said on facebook that the pictures of feet must be because they're running out of stuff to show ��

Challenge accepted. Let’s plan on doubling up the entire week shall we? Then I want you to go back to them and stick a finger in their face and say “See!”

...Not yet, though. He's busy with unrelated stuff right now.

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We keep seeing this format in the images of feet and the pizza oven. Do you have a stock image like this for every unit that will be in the crowdfunded set?
The format being the black-ish background with close-ups of the unit behind it

We are working on assets now to share on Oct 1st/on the Haslab page. What you are seeing are WIP files.

Will/could you post the WIP files here during the campaign so we can potentially see more of it?

The goal is to show you everything we have ready on 10/1

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How many more weeks of reveals do you think there could be based on the amount of things available on Oct 1st?

More to reveal than days left to reveal them prior to 10.1

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We are working on packaging. Not sure exactly what will be shown on 10.1, but as Heroscape players we know how hard it was to get the original Master Set back in the box...so we are trying to fix that.

Anitar · #68 September 19th, 2022, 09:09 PM

As promised, two of 'em.

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Originally Posted by Encarmine

DESIGNER'S NOTES - DAY 041 - (in honor of “Talk Like A Pirate Day” – know you asked for this) - “Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!” Ahoy, Me Hearties! Avast Ye hands, Heave Ho an listen well these tales I bring upon thee. For even within the Tar of crews such as dat Old Salt Jandar, there be many Seadogs of the oceans vast, sailing Man-O-War blazing with iron weapons even a son of a biscuit eater would stand up an take a notice. Killian Vane III has much more than grog running through his fabled family’s veins. Built like the stiff decking of the finest galleon in the fleet,dat heir to Ole Charles himself handles that blunderbuss he carries like a chase gun! And his tongue, like the sirens of Davy Jones’ locker he is, bringing a spring upon ‘er enemies an lookin’ like landlubbers crossing swords wit death himself, til their striking the colors! Not to be outdone in a challenge of skill or wit Admiral EJ-1M be the most shipshape captain amongst the Dawn Raider Syndicate he be. Savvy as a sea snake and the reflexes to arm wrestle an octopus, no surprise he finds himself the head privateer amongst Vydar’s selected when weighing anchor and hoisting the Mizzen! Deem scurvy dogs may find themselves feedin’ the fishes when the Admiral opens up like a full broadside with his near arsenal of firearms! Nothin’ and I mean nothin’ escapes Admiral Ej-1M’s view, like your best mate atop the crow’s nest, he sees it all and makes damn well sure those dead men tell no tales. (Guess there is your proof that I write these Designer Notes the day of their release.)

URLs are "Doubling_This_Weeks_Booty" and "Daring_You_To_Challenge_Him_To_A_Duel".

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I guess if that is theme for the day, you will need this one too for your collection:

URL is uninteresting. Feet clearly belong to EJ-1M.

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Still missing ullar feet and valkrill feet…

And Volarak, but his exclusion is understandable.
Since. Y'know. Not officially confirmed yet.

Volarak feet are the best of ALL FEET!

I'm not sure whose feet these are, but more importantly, it establishes Volarak as our ninth Valkyrie (and lime green).

caps · #69 September 20th, 2022, 11:41 AM

Today's update is live!

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DESIGNER'S NOTES - DAY 042 – “WE CAN NO LONGER LIVE AS RATS. WE KNOW TOO MUCH.” Beyond fearless to the point of zealotry, desperate to survive and standing stone-faced against death itself, the Clockwork Combine holds within its ranks some of the most courageous individuals the galaxy has ever known. One such champion of justice is the fabled Wing Commander Tuck Harrigan a daredevil acrobat in warfare, Tuck is everywhere on the battlefield at once. Whether he is nose diving directly into where the fighting is most fierce or weaving around the viscous strikes of his pitifully slow and lethargic enemy combatants. Tuck exemplifies the sheer willpower, ingenuity and expert training that has proven to be the winning recipe for the Clockwork Combine’s continued success in battle. To further recognize and grant context to the Combine’s skills at warfare, there are those siege craft specialist among the Vorid that can make any defensive line appear worthless. A rare breed indeed even among the kin, the Vorid Burrowbreakers are an elite team of sappers capable of moving silently under the enemy lines, appearing without warning or fanfare, and laying waste to their opponents with massive implements of their art of war. On Valhalla, the unpredictable tactics of the Clockwork Combine are instrumental in upsetting the perfectly laid plans of their adversaries, and the Vorid Burrowbreakers prove their mettle every time they are deployed underneath the feet of unsuspecting enemies. (NOW, you have seen my favorite character... Who doesn't want to play a maniac, murderous, lunatic sugar glider, rocketeer, gunslinger with a death wish?

image names are: "has_the_best_feet" for Tuck and "too_OP_for_tournaments" for Vorid

Anitar · #70 September 20th, 2022, 08:50 PM

On figure colors:

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When you say someone "likes" a color, do you mean to say they would base their whole personality around it?
Including the color of their summoned units

If your asking if Revna units are molded in a orange tone of plastic, the answer is yes.

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Now the question is what will Ullar and Valkrill units look like

Why would Ullar’s units be anything other than a shade of green?

Referring, I believe, to last Friday's symbol reveals:

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Revna's aren't lavender

That is a concept piece used to study the style across the entire range. The color was a placeholder by the illustrator.

Anitar · #71 September 21st, 2022, 04:56 PM

Welcome to evil plant day.

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DESIGNER'S NOTES - DAY 043 – “AND IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT OF DISTRESS AND CONFUSION THAT THE WHIP OF TERROR LAID ITS MOST NICELY CALCULATED LASH ABOUT HIS HEARTS.” The philosophies of the Dryan Lifeborne Magi teach the values of both life and death as equals in a balanced universe, however each Dryan Lifeborne Magi utilizes those forces of nature in different methods. Their order’s basic principle of neutral morality in a galaxy of good versus evil, means that members of the Dryan Lifeborne Order have been drawn to Valhalla by Valkyrie on both sides of the war. Some like Raakchott, Desecrator of Death, delight in their powerful new roles as masters of Valhalla’s battlefields. Raakchott finds no shortage of resources in this new position, pulling from the earth the raw energies of the recently deceased, consuming their decaying corpse and focusing that power into a raging torrent of fury and hate. Raakchott Desecrator of Death cares little for the peace eternal sleep allows, only that it serves him and master Utgar. Always beside Raakchott in the carnage of combat, is the manifestation of pure pain and anguish that is Vrono Brambletoth, its massive body riddled with sharp thorns lashing out at any who dare approach. Like a hurricane of razors, Vrono snarls in defiance to anyone foolish enough to question Utgar’s dominion over Valhalla.

File names are "This_Is_Why_You_Go_In_The_Woods_At_Night_People" and "Like_So_Huggable", respectively.

On the subject of, I believe, Raakchott:

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Encarmine, is what covers most of the Dryan bark or bone?

Depends how you paint it!

Anitar · #72 September 21st, 2022, 10:25 PM

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Have we established yet if the dawnraiders use boats for their piracy or if they operate in the skies in some way? I have been pondering that faction a bit and the gas masks, goggles, and tethered weapons got me thinking they might be sky pirates.

Why not both?

Also, for all of you who needed to know where the Haslab will ship to:

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