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Old December 9th, 2020, 10:55 PM
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

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All right, after looking through some comps (Supergirl (I), She-Hulk, Green Lantern (Hal), Mister Incredible, etc.) with folks on Discord, and realizing the protection power was once per round only (whoops) I've adjusted the calculation some and between comp and calculation, I think he's probably in the 330-350 range.
I'd buy that based on what I've seen in the tests.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old December 9th, 2020, 10:57 PM
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

I think people are overreacting a bit to the straight W/L record when we’re working with such a small sample size.
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Old December 10th, 2020, 02:49 AM
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Super Soldier

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Super Soldier(345), Sgt. Rock(175), Cap(240), Cap Isaiah(200) (960)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Abomination(360) (960)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Super Soldier(345), Sgt. Rock(175), Cap(240), Uncle Sam(240) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four(1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Wanted to give the Soldier synergy a try for myself to see in practice if there's anything to worry about. Personally, I feel it's much ado about nothing. Sure, I played the Soldiers against armies with decent auto-wounders and multi-turns, but those are pretty common offerings with any decent faction. The Soldiers in general don't exactly fire on all cylinders in terms of being a cohesive synergy, as each main piece seems to require an OM reveal to do their main offering. Cap wants turn 1. Isaiah wants an OM early when you think you can get your troops into engagement for maximum payoff. Sgt. Rock wants them for double turns... It's not exactly lighting anything on fire IMO. I like Cap + Ms. Marvel as a pair, but admittedly they aren't exactly completely cohesive since Cap requiring an OM means you're giving up a bonus turn. It's the same with him and Sgt. Rock's bonus turn. They're certainly fun, but I don't they're anything greater than A- tier wise.

All that said, Super Soldier certainly wasn't a driving force for the faction, and I think even as it pertains to Soldiers, Bloodshot may be an overall better draft for them for far cheaper. Anyway, 2 losses here at 345 with the key Soldier pieces backing him. Anything above 340 feels like a mistake to me. 330 seems reasonable.
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

Sounds really cool, and as though there's no real problem here. Honestly, I was surprised that anything was problematic, so I'm happy to hear that.


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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

Well it looks to me like we’re good to move forward here.
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

So 1-1 without Soldiers and 0-2 with. Sounds like the Soldier faction is over cost if anything.
Nice work Arkham.
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

Nice, that's reassuring to see.
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

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So 1-1 without Soldiers and 0-2 with. Sounds like the Soldier faction is over cost if anything.
Nice work Arkham.
Sounds like a lot of hasty conclusions have been tossed out based on small data sets.

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

Pre-Yea @ 330
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Public Playtesting)

Hey thanks Ark!!

It's been a long ride for this guy

I propose we move to Final Editing at 330
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (VOTE for Final Editing)

I'll go on the record as preferring 340, but I ultimately trust the testers here. yea

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (VOTE for Final Editing)

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