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Old August 27th, 2010, 08:19 PM
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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

He looks like a bit of a powerhouse.

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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

He does look pretty powerful, but also pretty darn close to 340 points. Good sheet from tcglkn.


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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

Yep - very detailed, useful results there. I think he slightly overperformed his cost in the heavy hitter and squad tests (if I was just basing it on those, I'd say 350 was better for him) but the army tests brought him back down to Earth, so 340 is still feeling solid to me. Plus, I liked him at that when I tested him.
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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

Yeah, it sounds like he overperformed a bit in those tests because he wasn't as beastly in the army tests.

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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

CHECK LIST FOR FIGURE UNITS
- THEME TEST/
Pass.
- MIRROR TEST/
Pass.
- BONDING TEST/
Nothing I know of, pass.
- SYNERGIES TEST/
Same as above, pass.
- POWER CHECK/
Pass.

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FUN TEST/ Pass, Rock Wall Bounce Back is fun.

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FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Pass, but it isn't a whole lotta fun getting thrown around when your opponent rolls 3 shields...
- DRAFTING TEST/
Definately, pass.
- USAGE TEST/
All of 'em. Pass.
- STRATEGY TEST/
I would say yes, so pass.
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All tests done on Swamp Thing.
- HEAVY HITTER TEST
/ Vs. Thanos win: SuperSkrull w/ 2 wounds, Thanos had 1 bad defense roll.
Vs. Abomination win: Abomination w/ 6 wounds, this one was fair.
Vs. Silver Surfer win: SuperSkrull w/ 5 wounds, this one was also a fair fight.
Vs. Hal Jordan win: SuperSkrull w/ 0 wounds, he got lucky on a roll.
Vs. Arkillo win: SuperSkrull w/ 3 wounds, 1 lucky roll for the Skrull, and Arkillo had a bad Eviscerate.
- SQUAD TEST
/ Vs. 3x Minions of Utgar win: SuperSkrull w/ 0 wounds in Round 3, Turn 1, Rock Wall Bounce Back killed most of the Minions.
- ARMY TEST
/ Army 1: SuperSkrull, Venom, Iron Man, and 2x Omnicron Repulsors Vs. Black Canary, Zettian Guards, Deathwalker 9000, Major Q9, Major Q10, and 2x Rats.
Repulsors and Rats charge to the middle of the field first, and a fight brews. The Repulsors Overload their Circuits to kill 3 Rats and 2 additional from their Targeting during this first round fight. Finally, to end the brawl, a Rat kills a Repulsor (That's right, a rat. Rats killing things, it's obsurd!). Then SuperSkrull decides to join the fight and plops himself on a cliff, waiting for some scrumpsious prey to come along. Sure enough, along comes Black Canary, using her Cry to kill a Repulsor. SuperSkrull leaps into action, attacking Black Canary for 3 wounds. The Canary's retaliation only deals 1 wound to SuperSkrull. The Repulsors move again, this time killing 1 more Rat. Major Q9 hears Canary's call of distress and joins the fight, using his Quelix Gun to kill 2 Repulsors (his attack on SuperSkrull missed). Black Canary manages to deal 3 wounds to SuperSkrull, but her Fists of Fury backfire when Rock Wall Bounce Back kills her. All said and done, Q9 uses his Gun again, this time killing SuperSkrull with a 3 Skull to 1 Shield attack. It turned out to be a close fight between the Soulborgs and the remaining supers.
Army 2: SuperSkrull, Huntress, Joker, and 2x Armoc Vipers Vs. Wonder Woman, Batman, Taelord, and 2x Anubian Wolves.
Joker, winning initiative, Reorganized his opponents plans, and allowing the Vipers ot make the first move. Taelord flies u to a somewhat safe spot on height for attemped advantage to his team's attacks later on. The Vipers move again, and Batman comes in, flinging his Batarang and killing a Viper. SuperSkrull decided to move, setting himself atop a cliff, overlooking the fight in the middle of the battlefield. Batman flings another Batarang or two, this time killing 3 Vipers. Anubian Wolves move a little closer to the fight, but not close enough just yet. SuperSkrull makes his move, wounding Batman but then realizing, if he kills Batman Joker is useless. The Wolves Unleash ther Fury and wound the now vulnerable SuperSkrull. SuperSkrull needs a new target, so he flies up to Taelord and kills him after 2 attacks, thanks to a few misfires down below. Wonder Woman moves, but her attack on SuperSkrull causes her a wound and she gets Bounced Back off the cliff. She tries again, but the same thing happens. Huntress then leaps into action, moving a little closer to the sprawled units in the middle of the field. Another stealthy Batarang kills a Viper, and SuperSkrull wounds Wonder Woman. Wonder Womans retaliation gets through this time, dealing 4 wounds to SuperSkrull. SuperSkrull of course fight back, dealing another wound. The Wolves move again, this time killing Huntress, but sacrificing 2 of their own to Counterstrike. Wonder Woman gets her revenge by killing SuperSkrull, and in the end giving her team the win.
Analysis: SuperSkrull is a strong unit, but can be killed easily enough. He does hold his points, but then dies not long thereafter. I woud say anywhere from 300-350 is accurate for him.

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Old August 29th, 2010, 09:36 AM
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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

Above test sheet is from Scapemage. I don't have time to review it now, but will check it out later. Needs to be linked to first page please.

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Re: SuperSkrull - VOTE for Playtesting

Nothing in there to contradict the prevailing thought of 340. He did really well in heavy hitter and squad tests, then not so well in army tests.
I think after all three tests, 340 is still holding up.

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Re: SuperSkrull - Playtesting (Results are in!)

So .... bumping this in case, you know, anybody feels like proposing he get moved to whole set testing or anything ...

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Re: SuperSkrull - Playtesting (Results are in!)

Good test sheet from scapemage. 340 still sounds OK.


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Re: SuperSkrull - Playtesting (Results are in!)

Yep - I think all three playtesters felt best with him at 340.

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Re: SuperSkrull - Playtesting (Results are in!)

I propose Super Skrull moves to Whole Set Testing

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Re: SuperSkrull - Playtesting (Results are in!)

I'm not sure about this wording:
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ROCK WALL BOUNCE BACK 3
If a small or medium adjacent figure attacks Super Skrull with a normal attack, and Super Skrull rolls at least 3 shields, Super Skrull takes no damage, the attacking figure receives one wound, and you may Bounce Back the figure by placing it on any empty space within 3 clear sight spaces of Super Skrull. The space must be on the same level as or lower than its current location. A non-flying figure moved lower by Rock Wall Bounce Back can receive any falling damage that may apply.
It sounds like the space is being moved. What if it is replaced with:
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The figure must land on a space that is the same level or lower than it's current location.
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