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Old October 18th, 2022, 06:33 PM
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Re: Competitive Unit Congress

If you cut his wings off and made him a Human Champion, he would instantly rival Sir Gilbert as the KoW's best bonding option.
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Old October 18th, 2022, 06:36 PM
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The Knights of Weston only bond with human champions, so this change most likely leaves Concan with the same synergy unless I'm missing something
You are 10000% right. Dang it. I forgot it said human! There goes that dream. He's clearly not a human.

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But he would work with the Bears, and would be their number one draft choice!

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I’ve played a decent number of games with CUC Einar Imperium and I have to say they are quite potent. @Captain Stupendous and @brandonwiker can attest. Even without CUC Empress Kiova (but with original Kiova) these guys are beasts. Probably an A to A+. I’ve played a handful of 4 player free for all games where the other 3 players would need a 3 way team to take down the Imperium.

That being said I love the CUC Einar Imperium. They make these guys so much more likely to get drafted. Probably my second favorite unit second only to the Venoc Vipers.

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Old November 6th, 2022, 06:07 PM
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I’ve played a decent number of games with CUC Einar Imperium and I have to say they are quite potent. @Captain Stupendous and @brandonwiker can attest. Even without CUC Empress Kiova (but with original Kiova) these guys are beasts. Probably an A to A+. I’ve played a handful of 4 player free for all games where the other 3 players would need a 3 way team to take down the Imperium.

That being said I love the CUC Einar Imperium. They make these guys so much more likely to get drafted. Probably my second favorite unit second only to the Venoc Vipers.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I love the unit and I'm happy with the changes that were made here. It's great to see such a unique unit with such great minis see more play.

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I’ve played a decent number of games with CUC Einar Imperium and I have to say they are quite potent. @Captain Stupendous and @brandonwiker can attest. Even without CUC Empress Kiova (but with original Kiova) these guys are beasts. Probably an A to A+. I’ve played a handful of 4 player free for all games where the other 3 players would need a 3 way team to take down the Imperium.

That being said I love the CUC Einar Imperium. They make these guys so much more likely to get drafted. Probably my second favorite unit second only to the Venoc Vipers.
I've been summoned and triggered at the same time!

I used 6 squads of omnicron snipers, I think my entire army dealt 1 damage to Kiova and killed 1-2 of the uber Imperium. The new version is so hilariously anti-range that it's bash-head-agianst-wall to try and kill any of them at range ESPECIALLY while combined with Kiova. Evasive 2 + defense rerolls is ****ing impenetrable for non-adjacent attackers; each of the Imperium are effectively getting deathwalker defense dice.

If the hope was to make the Imperium more anti-range, they definitely succeeded in that!
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Re: Competitive Unit Congress

The intent is not to make them unstoppable. They are ideally balanced for the standard tournament structure, but there will always be certain armies they are better against than others. We haven't seen them perform as strongly as you guys are describing, but I can't say that we tested the exact army and game comp you guys set up.

We always continually review our adjustments and see if any changes need to be made. We'll keep an eye on these guys.

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Concan is already strong and has a real place in the current meta, particularly with RtW. I am skeptical that a CUC revision is necessary. If you want every unit to be viable in a cheese meta, just play delta. My humble opinion is that CUC should really only be for the worst / least viable units (C- and below maybe). Concan is a solid B and I would not revise him.
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Old November 8th, 2022, 12:15 PM
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Concan is already strong and has a real place in the current meta, particularly with RtW. I am skeptical that a CUC revision is necessary. If you want every unit to be viable in a cheese meta, just play delta. My humble opinion is that CUC should really only be for the worst / least viable units (C- and below maybe). Concan is a solid B and I would not revise him.

Agreed. As we mentioned, it was really not in line with our mission statement. And, of course, I overlooked one key thing. We aren't moving forward with a change to him.

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Wonderful to see what has come out of this over the years!
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