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Old August 19th, 2019, 08:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Sounds perfect. I've no interest in it moving forward despite you, so now that I know you're thinking it through and trying to find a new direction, I'm content to be patient for a bit.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

I know that wasn't your intent here I am not offended at all! I've been really bad at managing this LD. The big part that bothers me is the move to calling them Ultron with a Secret Identity of Drone, I wanted to read the Identity rules and see if it wasn't possible to drop that and just have them be Uncommon Ultrons with no Identity and allow them to be drafted with Event Hero Ultrons.

Also don't love the d20 roll bonding power and would rather have something less complex like OM flexibility. Maybe reveal an OM and move any 2 Ultrons and attack with 1 regardless of who the OM was revealed on.

I am not married to the Drone class but also currently found anything that I prefer to it. Minion is the closest but I still don't love it.

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The big part that bothers me is the move to calling them Ultron with a Secret Identity of Drone, I wanted to read the Identity rules and see if it wasn't possible to drop that and just have them be Uncommon Ultrons with no Identity and allow them to be drafted with Event Hero Ultrons.
Current Ultron has a secret identity of Ultron Pym, so calling the drones "Ultron" without a secret identity should work just fine.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

I think Drone would be fine here. We can totally key into Insect Drones for Queen Bee, the only issue would be how I planned the female Red Bee and her robotic Bees, but that can all be planned out later. I'm for staying Drone, don't love any of the other suggestions so far either. Though an alternative could be Automaton. I'm still for calling then Ultron Drones in general though.

I do like your OM flex ideas.
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The big part that bothers me is the move to calling them Ultron with a Secret Identity of Drone, I wanted to read the Identity rules and see if it wasn't possible to drop that and just have them be Uncommon Ultrons with no Identity and allow them to be drafted with Event Hero Ultrons.
I don't think there are any issues with dropping the SI here.


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Also don't love the d20 roll bonding power and would rather have something less complex like OM flexibility. Maybe reveal an OM and move any 2 Ultrons and attack with 1 regardless of who the OM was revealed on.
I like that just as much. If the power is worded so you can have the OM on Ultron Pym or an Uncommon Ultron it still has the same feel I'm hoping for.


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I am not married to the Drone class but also currently found anything that I prefer to it. Minion is the closest but I still don't love it.
Class can be figured out as we go. Doesn't need to be anything unless you want it to bond with something.


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I think Drone would be fine here. We can totally key into Insect Drones for Queen Bee, the only issue would be how I planned the female Red Bee and her robotic Bees, but that can all be planned out later. I'm for staying Drone, don't love any of the other suggestions so far either. Though an alternative could be Automaton. I'm still for calling then Ultron Drones in general though.

I do like your OM flex ideas.
Not all of Queen Bee's Drones are insects though. Hive Troopers are classed as Drones and they aren't insects.




What about Classing the Ultron Drones as Constructs? We used that for a certain android squad that is ON Deck.

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Shows how little I know about her.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Constructs actually sounds good to me. I’ll put together an update for the SP here and hopefully we can move forward.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

I've updated the SP with my updated thoughts. I think the intent of the Age of Ultron power is clear but unsure if the current wording is too loose and allows multiple turns. My HeroScape wording skills have definitely weakened over the years.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Here's how I would word it. My reasoning on the Unique over Uncommon route is twofold 1) Uncommon=Unique in all but draftability and 2) I do not believe we have ever specifically called out Uncommons on a card before without actually naming the unit itself.

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After revealing an Order Marker on an Uncommonique or Event Hero Ultron you control, and instead of taking a turn normally with that figure, you may instead move up to 2 Ultron figures you control and attack with up to one Ultron figure you control.
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After revealing an Order Marker on an Unique or Event Hero Ultron you control, and instead of taking a turn normally with that figure, you may instead move up to 2 Ultron figures you control and attack with up to one Ultron figure you control.
Otherwise, I'm content with this direction.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

I dig it. Nice and elegant.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Good call. Leaves room for a Unique Ultron at a later time too.

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