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Old November 16th, 2019, 01:04 AM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Maybe just pick one of them, slap this guy on hold and then revisit him after you design one of them? h
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Old November 16th, 2019, 01:36 AM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

You could see how he does in that less RL focused third army test you have lined up to see if it's more him or more the faction. If it's more him, going on hold won't help, obviously. If it's more the faction, you could still try to test and cost him for outside of the faction use and then work to improve the faction as you continue to build it.

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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:31 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Ok, here's what I'd like to go with:
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NAME = Red Lantern
SECRET IDENTITY = Dex-Starr

SPECIES = Cat
UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero
CLASS = Ravager
PERSONALITY = Vicious
SIZE/HEIGHT = Small 3

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 6
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 6
POINTS = ~240


BLOOD OF YSMAULT 2
Start the game with 2 red Battery Markers on this card. Add one to Red Lantern's Move and Attack for each red Battery Marker on this card. Whenever Red Lantern receives one or more wounds from an attack, if there are fewer than 2 red Battery Markers on this card, you may choose any red Battery Marker that is not on an Army Card and place it on this card.

CAT SCRATCH FEVER
If Red Lantern inflicts at least one wound on an adjacent figure with his normal attack, the defending figure receives one additional wound. After attacking, you may remove a red Battery Marker from this card to attack again.

FURBALL FACADE
Figures subtract 1 from their defense dice when attacked by Red Lantern or an adjacent friendly Ravager. After moving normally with a friendly Ravager, you may move Red Lantern as long as he ends his movement adjacent to that Ravager. Red Lantern will not take any leaving engagement attacks when moving with Furball Facade.

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Revamped Atrocitus (II) a bit to have him provide some self survival tactics, thus opening up Dex for a different role that should combo nicely.
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Old November 16th, 2019, 07:08 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Hmm, OK, I can get why the Facade power lets him surprise enemies and get them to have -1 defense, but I'm not sure why adjacent friendly Ravagers get that particular bonus.

The rest looks solid enough to me.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

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Hmm, OK, I can get why the Facade power lets him surprise enemies and get them to have -1 defense, but I'm not sure why adjacent friendly Ravagers get that particular bonus.

The rest looks solid enough to me.
He’s acting as a distraction.
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Old November 16th, 2019, 07:14 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Hmm ... I guess. "Facade" doesn't exactly scream "distraction." My concern is that the number of different mechanic effects being crowded under one heading for that power make it difficult for the theme to come across cleanly. Might just be me, though.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Open to a different name, or a different approach. Just wanted to provide a benefit to Atrocitus to make them a solid combo, and felt the vicious cat hovering around him engaged with the same enemy would provide a pack tactic like bonus.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

I'd probably choose a lane more. Go with a distraction power or a movement power. It's a lot to do both in the same power, IMO.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

I think something like "FELINE UNDERFOOT" would capture both themes pretty well. He's just constantly hanging around, being annoying, in a catlike way.

But I do always agree with simplification where possible. I'd keep the defense reduction and leave the bonus movement to a future Red Lantern strategist type.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

Ooh, that title is solid.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Red Lantern (Dex-Starr)

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Army Test 1 (Arkham vs. Gutudak)
Map: Country Road
Units:
Dex(240), Rankorr(280), Cap(240), Nebula(240) (1000)
vs.
Guy(320), Hal(350), Kilowog(310), Shield Construct(20) (1,000)
Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test 2 (Arkham vs. Gutudak)
Map: Country Road
Units:
Dex(240), Rankorr(280), Bleez(350) (870)
vs.
Uncle Same(240), Cap(240), Bane(190), Merlyn(160), Shield Sniper(40) (870)
Spoiler Alert!


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Army Test 3 (Arkham vs. Karat)
Map: Icy Road
Units:
Dex(240), Cap(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Rankorr(280) (1110)
vs.
Sorcerer Doom, Kristoff, Wong, 4xDoombot, Final Ruin, Vapors of Valtorr, 5xLightning Bolt, 5xMystic Flames, Waking Nightmare, 4xTemporal Inversion, Mesmerize (1110)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Feels really on point after the changes. He tags along, to which he can be placed tactically. He comes out swinging with some potentially nasty claws that drain his markers. From there, he can be used as a support for his team by subtracting enemy defense, and possibly forcing leaving engagements. He'll certainly pair well with what we have planned for Atrocitus II. After these 3 games, with 2 very close losses and one close-medium win, I'd like to send him to public testing at 250.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Dex-Starr) (Initial PT)

I’m more for the bonus movement than the defense reduction, if we insist on only having one.

It feels a bit weird to characterize Dex as “the annoying cat” when he’s possibly the most vicious and violent of the Reds. Yeah, I know I suggested the -1 Defense, but I’m just not loving the “cat who won’t get out from under your feet” theme here.
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