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Re: The Book of Arashara Goshiri
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And this is the argument I use for Jotun and Nakita builds. The Nakita's Engagement Power says, "moves". Jotun's throwing power says, "placing". So therefore since "placing" is different from "moving" the Nakita's shouldn't get to roll for Engagement Strike. But anyways, you can visit a conversation in the Question Thread starting here: Jotun/Nakita Conversation.
I still to this day disagree with all of that argument and still think I was right (and not for selfish reasons either). Last edited by Sheep; June 27th, 2012 at 11:04 PM. |
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Never draw fire; it irritates everyone around you. ~Murphy's Laws of Combat |
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I'm thinking that this gal is going to make some simple soldier builds even more beautiful!
At 500 points, Arashara/Romans x3/10th Reg x2 seems pretty solid. You can lead with the Romans and the warlord, then clean up with WTF. At 550, I really love Arashara/Marcus/Romans x2/10th Reg x2. Two warlords to bond with, not to mention the flexibility Arashara provides in moving herself and/or Marcus (or an enemy Raelin), all wrapped up in a nice package that allows the 10th to really shine in the end-game if Marcus is nested among them on height. I really like the Skeletons, but I think Arashara Goshiri is my fave from this wave. WORST. PALADIN. EVER. Overall Tourney Record: ....I don't even remember anymore! |
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Arashara seems like she would be right at home in a Glads/Blasts army. I don't have any experience with them, but the option to sink a Cyberclaw into a cluster of Rats is somewhat intriguing.
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Now, some people have made the argument that "move" means the figure technically has to physically fit on every space between origin and destination, but even then you're on shaky ground with clear counter-examples such as Spear of Summoning and Glacier Traverse. But if that is a difference (if!), it's the only one. Quote:
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It's okay to disagree. Disagreement makes the world go 'round. However, when you're disagreeing with game designers about the rules of the game they designed, you have to face the fact that you may be on shaky ground. Quote:
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I second what Xotli said.
The designers have stated that moving and placing are synonymous basically. There is a link in my signature, and the decision was made from the beginning in 2006 (or sooner). Moreover, even if you disagree with the original game designers, the two words are actually used as synonymous in several powers. An example: Quote:
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A similar remark can be made about the Glyph of Poftaka: Quote:
An even more clear proof that "move", "place" and even "summon" are synonymous. Quote:
Sometimes you must count the spaces, sometimes you get the road bonus, sometimes you are limited by height,... But the general rule is: Quote:
They will all trigger (if all conditions are met) Engagement Strike from the Nakita or Arkmer, and Ice Spike from the Greater Ice Elemental.
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"This isn't the post you're looking for."
"Move along now." Last edited by Sheep; June 28th, 2012 at 12:43 PM. |
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Guess who is a designer: Oh wait it's GB! (His name appears in the very book you reference as a designer) So if he says something, then you can take it to the bank. Case Closed. Now if you want to play that way causually, fine that is your perogiative...but please do not suggest that the ruling is wrong, because its not. If you were playing in a tournament like GenCon, you'd be told so by every Scaper there. Sorry but you are arguing for House Rules, because the designers have told us "that move and plase are basically the same". C3V Current Broadcast 4/29/2015 C3V Testimonial from " Easily the best quality classic customs I have ever seen" MY MINIATURE COLLECTION -- NEW VALHALLA |
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I'm done arguing this, I started it, I'll end it. It's done here. I'll say moving and placing are different, everyone else will say that they are the same, in cases like Engagement Strike. But at the end of the day, we're (for the most part) all friends on here and that's what matters.
~HS2010, tired of arguing of a worthless ruling. And hoping everyone can become friends again. Last edited by Sheep; June 28th, 2012 at 12:38 PM. |
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I had my reservations that Arashara was worth 200 points... so I played a game with her with this army:
200 Arashara 200 Greeks x4 100 Marcus 500, 18 spaces It kicked butt. I thought Cyprien would be a great counter to Arashara, but boy was I wrong. Cyprien got the first strike inflicting 3 wounds on Arashara, but then Arashara used Shifting Sands to place Cyprien on low ground, then surround him with Greeks. That destroyed him. Admittedly, this was lucky, buy Arashara would be great with Major X17 or gladiatrons. Imagine Ara sending Cyprien into Cyberclaw, then just ignoring him until the rest of his army is toast. I still think Arashara will be hard pressed to be worth her 200 points, but she has her moments. That 4 attack is nice too. She isn't afraid to get down swinging with her men on the front lines. Range as always, though, is her Achilles' Heel. The sheer numbers of Greeks or Romans make up for this I think, since they make a pretty effective screen. |
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