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The Book of Arsenal

The Book of Arsenal

C3G DC WAVE 32
YEAR OF THE HERO



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the DC Legacy set.
Its model number and name are #40 / Speedy
Its model number and name are #41-42 / Arsenal
Its model number and name are #202 / Roy Harper Jr.


This design requires one copy of the Utility: Bolas Equipment Glyph.

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Character Bio - After he was Speedy, before he wore a fabulous black trucker hat, Roy used a lot of high tech weaponry and bounced around between the Titans and the Outsiders.

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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Arsenal may use his Team Cover Fire special power to attack on the same turn as another Titan or Interloper and to move another Titan or Interloper.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

NAME = ARSENAL
SECRET IDENTITY = ROY HARPER

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = VOLATILE
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4
POINTS = 190

BOLAS

Start the game with a Glyph of Bolas on this card. Arsenal cannot lose this glyph by receiving wounds unless he is destroyed.

ARSENAL
Before attacking with Arsenal’s normal attack you may choose to:
• add 4 to his Range number this turn; or
• subtract 1 from the defending figure's Defense number; or
• count all blanks rolled as extra skulls.

TEAM COVER FIRE
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of another Unique Hero you control that is an Interloper or Titan and moving that Unique Hero, before attacking with that Unique Hero, if Arsenal has not yet moved or attacked this turn, Arsenal may immediately attack an opponent's figure with his normal attack. Immediately after the opponent rolls defense dice, you may move Arsenal or one other Titan or Interloper figure you control up to 2 spaces. Figures moved this way will not take leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

I decided to go with several notions from the Last Chance Workshop here. Though I really liked Tornado's idea to have the movement in Team Cover Fire be variable based on the number of skulls rolled, ultimately I scrapped it to simplify where I went with the power a tad.

After notes from Spidey and co on him really never being fully the top leader, but always more of a secondary leader, I decided I'd rather keep the established Speed Shot aesthetic of having him operate without an Order Marker, so I incorporated that and the free movement both into Team Cover Fire. In order to keep that in check, though, I put a hard cap on the figure movement of just him and one other Interloper/Titan.

I also nixed his double attack option from his arsenal and instead went with a defensive reduction and with Spidey's idea of doubling skulls on an attack reduction. This should give him a bit more variety, I think, and really make it feel like a fuller "arsenal."

Bolas is still there. Since I dropped the double attack and the skulls causing the number of figures to move, I upped his attack back to 4.

I went with Titan over Interloper on the desires of japes.

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

No new comments here. So long as he's working well with Interlopers and Titans, I'm all in.

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

Aww, i really liked the double attack. I guess this fixes the issue of people feeling it was the clear choice (though I thought spicing up those other choices would also work.)

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

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Aww, i really liked the double attack. I guess this fixes the issue of people feeling it was the clear choice (though I thought spicing up those other choices would also work.)
The biggest reason I dropped it is that I didn't want him coming in too strong with the free movements after I made it a passive power that didn't require an OM turn for him.

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

Dig the design, though the last power is looking pretty stuffed. Might cut out the 8 clear sight spaces requirement, just to have one less thing in there.
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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

I only wonder if he should really be a 190 point guy or not. Oliver is only 150, Hawkeye is 150 or 160, the first Batman was 200, he's just a well trained regular human right? Did he really surpass Oliver by that much and get that close to Batman levels?

When I lobbied for the minus defense option I was thinking just a flat -1 since it's automatic. Oliver's skill shot only gets him a -2 (or better) 50% of the time. Since Roy doesn't need to roll the d20, he just gets the power whenever he needs it, I'd bring in down to -1.
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I only wonder if he should really be a 190 point guy or not. Oliver is only 150, Hawkeye is 150 or 160, the first Batman was 200, he's just a well trained regular human right? Did he really surpass Oliver by that much and get that close to Batman levels?

When I lobbied for the minus defense option I was thinking just a flat -1 since it's automatic. Oliver's skill shot only gets him a -2 (or better) 50% of the time. Since Roy doesn't need to roll the d20, he just gets the power whenever he needs it, I'd bring in down to -1.
I think he has a point. Right now I think I'd use -2 defense every time I'm in range.

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Re: The Book of Arsenal (Breathing Period)

I’m fine with going -1.

The points are there as a guess, mostly based on the value of Team Cover Fire, but I have reigned that in a bit. If we go to the -1 I could see trying him at 170. If folks think that’s too much, could put his normal attack down to 3 and try him at 150.

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