The Book of Malekith

[Karat]

48 hour wait on these votes.

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by Karat

48 hour wait on these votes.

Gotcha, thanks.

[Arkham]

Alright, I believe this passes in just a couple minutes. So I'm just supposed to post the OP link in the Playtest thread correct?

[TrollBrute]

Yep, update the thread title here and make an announcement in the Public Playtesting thread, then sit back and wait for playtests.

[Arkham]

Question:

How many playtests can I do to count towards the needed 10 games?

I can get a couple friends over and run these games and easily knock these out in a night. I'd be totally willing to do that, unless you require multiple people to chip in for one design's playtests.

[johnny139]

First of all, "ten games" isn't a hard-and-fast rule. Could be more or less depending on how the design is going.

More to the point, though, I personally like a minimum of 3-5 different testers on a single unit. But getting 4-5 good tests would do a lot to speed up the process and help push toward the low-end of that number.

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by johnny139

First of all, "ten games" isn't a hard-and-fast rule. Could be more or less depending on how the design is going.

More to the point, though, I personally like a minimum of 3-5 different testers on a single unit. But getting 4-5 good tests would do a lot to speed up the process and help push toward the low-end of that number.

Ok cool, I figured as much, but I wanted to ask to see what the general rule of thumb is. I'd prefer to not do them and let others do them as well, just to see what people come up with.

[TrollBrute]

Yeah, I'd say 3 testers is our minimum, with at least 2 tests from each. More is always better though, and a 3-4 game playtest sheet really helps move things along.

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Malekith

Army Test 1
Map: Chernobyl
Units:
Malekith, Loki, Gamora (950)
vs.
Cosmic Boy, Chameleon Boy, Bouncing Boy, Brainiac 5, Triplicate Girl (940)

Spoiler Alert!

Illusionary Arts Damage:
-3 wounds on Chameleon Boy from Gamora.
-3 wounds on Brainiac 5 from Gamora.

Attack Damage:
-0

Notes:
-Legionnaires struggle at first on how to approach Malekith.
-Brainiac 5 and Cosmic Boy failed a couple rolls for their defensive abilities to trigger.
-Triplicate Girl got taken out of the game using her defense which did not pay off.
-Loki puts 4 wounds back on Cosmic Boy with GoE.
-Gamora healed 2 wounds over the course of the game.



Loki has 5 wounds, Gamora 0 wounds, Malekith 0 wounds.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: "I like him for his point value and psychological mindgames." - Malekith's team
"He's OK, him and Gamora I felt were quite difficult" - Legionnaires

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Army Test 2
Map: Chernobyl
Units:
Malekith, Darkseid, Electro, War Machine (1005)
vs.
Blob, Invisible Woman, Merlyn, Mister Sinister, Oracle (990)

Spoiler Alert!

Illusionary Arts Damage:
-0

Attack Damage:
-0

Notes:
-Mister Sinister fails entire first two rounds of Genetic Manipulation
-Mister Sinister has 13 failures and 6 successes with Genetic Manipulation
-Oracle's range is set to 3 after 7 failed attempts
-Invisible Woman's defense is set to 4
-Merlyn's Defense is set to 5
-Merlyn dies before attack increase
-Invisible Woman's attack is set to 5
-Oracle's defense is set to 7
-Invisible Woman's range is set to 8
-Darkseid whiffs defense and takes 3 wounds
-Maliketh gets outranged by Invisible Woman and dies
-Darkseid rolls one shield, takes 4 wounds, and subsequently dies
-Invisible Woman is an unstoppable force of destruction

Invisible Woman 4 wounds, Mister Sinister 0 wounds

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
"Malekith didn't come into play very much until later on, but it was too late" - Mister Sinister's team
"Malekith got outranged by Invisible Woman" -Malekith's team

Army Test 3
Map: Chernobyl
Units:
Malekith, Gamora, Invisible Woman, Starlord (995)
vs.
Mr. Sinister, Wolverine, Gambit, Emma Frost (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Illusionary Arts Damage:
-2 wounds on Wolverine from Emma Frost
-1 wound on Mr Sinister from Wolverine
-4 wounds on Mr Sinister from Wolverine

Attack Damage:
-0

Notes:
-Emma frost range to 3 from Mr Sinister
-Wolverine range to 4 from Mr Sinister
-First round Mr sinister gets 2 of 3 rolls
-Emma Frost attack to 5 from Mr Sinister
-Wolverine's defense to 6 from Mr Sinister
-Emma Frost defense to 7 from Mr Sinister
-Second round Mr Sinister gets every roll
-Third round Mr Sinister fails every roll.
-Wolverine's attack to 8 from Mr Sinister
-Wolverine dies to Gamora's counterstrike
-Malekith takes 3 wounds from 5-card draw
-Gambit rolls 0 defense, dies to Gambit
-Emma frost kills Malekith
-Emma frost kills Invisible woman
-Emma frost dies to Gamora's counterstrike


0 wounds on Gamora, 0 wounds on Starlord

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: "I made sure to get to my opponents base all in one group, and use Malekith to hopefully make them attack themselves." - Malekith's team
"Malekith definitely provides a lot of pressure, and he did more than enough team killing this game." - Mister Sinister's team

Army Test 4
Map: Chernobyl
Units:
Malekith, Loki, Mr. Sinister (980)
vs.
Catman, Scandal Savage, Knockout, Parademon, Black Alice (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Illusionary Arts Damage:
-Loki takes 3 damage from Knockout (in place of Mr Sinister)
-Malekith takes 1 damage from Knockout (In place of Mr Sinister)
-Loki takes 0 damage from Knockout (in place of Malekith)
-Scandal Savage takes 1 damage from Black Alice (in place of Malekith)
-Catman takes 2 damage from Scandal Savage(in place of Malekith)
-Catman takes 1 damage from Parademon, dies (in place of Malekith)
-Parademon takes 3 damage from Black Alice (In place of Malekith)

Attack Damage:
-3 damage from Malekith on Catman
-2 damage from Malekith on Black Alice
-1 damage from Malekith on Catman
-1 damage from Malekith on Scandal
-1 damage from Malekith on Scandal
-1 damage from Malekith on Scandal
-1 damage from Malekith on Scandal, Scandal dies
-2 damage from Malekith on Catman

Notes:
-Loki is Catman's prey
-Mr Sinister fails all rolls in first round
-Malekith's range lowered to 3
-Mr Sinister fails 2 of 3 rolls in second round
-Loki's range raised to 4
-Mr Sinister rolled 0 defense, takes 3 wounds
-Loki's move is raised to 5
-Mr Sinister dies to Knockout's 6 attack roll
-Loki deals damage to knockout, becomes Smitten
-Loki rolls 0 defense, dies
-Malekith runs away after knockout destroys Loki and Mr Sinister.
-Black Alice rolls 0 attack on Malekith
-Malekith switches Parademon, he suicides to kill Malekith, Malekith dies, game ends


Black Alice with 3 wounds, Knockout with 4 wounds.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: "I was surprised by Malekith's tenacity." - Outlaws
"Mr Sinister was probably a bad choice, because his rolls did not pull through, but Malekith more than pulled his weight. DFD really helped, not taking leaving engagements" - Malekith's team

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I feel his cost is right in line with where he is at gameplay wise. I don't feel he is overpowered as long as you handly him right, and that goes for both sides of the equation. He doesn't feel underpowered as long as you use him right. I think he is definitely draftable, and adds some serious strategy and thought, with a definite intimidation factor that helps his team not get pushed around.

[TrollBrute]

I'm curious about the second game, with as long as it took Sinister to get going, I would think Darkseid would have whupped them. Given that he could use his SA on Invisible Woman early, and then go after the others.

Solid tests. Big fan of Mr. Sinister, eh?

[Tornado]

Nice work Aggressive Sock. I have never seen the quotes approach, pretty cool.
I am assuming your friends were running Malekith for some of those tests. That is really nice to have a chance to see the design from the other side of the map and get their feedback.
Well done.

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by Tornado

That is really nice to have a chance to see the design from the other side of the map and get their feedback. Well done.

It's always nice to see how people felt about the unit, both playing with and against him.