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Old December 4th, 2019, 11:13 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

We could just go back to the D20 roll but mess with the numbers? Would we prefer a lower roll with lower bonuses, or a higher roll with higher bonuses? I feel pretty strongly that sacrificing a squaddie you control should be pretty much a 100% success rate.

I get what Johnny is saying about Brutality, but I think making it more versatile by taking away one of the qualifiers would make it less “light touch.” It’s a few words more text this way, but it’s the kind of power you don’t need to reference lots so your brain can pretty much skim over it most of the time. I just personally find that far preferable to him brutalizing Lanterns or Cap, which feels weird.
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Old December 4th, 2019, 11:27 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

I though we had worked it out so that Green Lanterns with power batteries on their card would have an attack higher than 3 and not be effected. We were just cutting out the stat boosters that were checked for before rolling attack dice and not powers on cards that raised up a base attack score on a continual basis. Is that not correct (this would effect how the power works if it were 3 or 4, SS or no SS)?

As for the Human Shield Power, I'm leaning toward keeping the d20 roll for all but making the boosts so high that a squad figure you control only fails on a 1. That makes it 95% effective in that situation before d20 manipulators get involved.
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Old December 4th, 2019, 11:35 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

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I though we had worked it out so that Green Lanterns with power batteries on their card would have an attack higher than 3 and not be effected. We were just cutting out the stat boosters that were checked for before rolling attack dice and not powers on cards that raised up a base attack score on a continual basis. Is that not correct (this would effect how the power works if it were 3 or 4, SS or no SS)?
That wasn't my understanding of the conversation, but I may be mistaken. We can determine between powers that change "Attack Number/Value" and powers that change "Attack dice rolled", but those terms don't have a direct correlation to "boosting myself" vs. "boosting somebody else" afaik.
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As for the Human Shield Power, I'm leaning toward keeping the d20 roll for all but making the boosts so high that a squad figure you control only fails on a 1. That makes it 95% effective in that situation before d20 manipulators get involved.
So maybe a roll of 16 with +7 boosts? That's a roll of 16 for an enemy Unique, and a roll of 9 for enemy Commons and your Uniques.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 12:13 AM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

I'd say if it's a squad figure you control it should be essentially, if not completely, a 100%. I envision it less that he's holding them up and more like he's pulling then into the shot and they don't have time to react. Plus it makes him a better pick with the Hydra squads.

So I'm in favor of any thing along that line.

So maybe a D20 with a bonus for common figures and a second bonus for figures you control.


HUMAN SHIELD 12

Anytime Crossbones is attacked by a non-adjacent opponent's figure with a normal attack and at least 1 skull is rolled, you may choose an adjacent small or medium figure without the Super Strength special power and roll the 20-sided die. If you control the chosen figure you may add 5 to the roll. If the figure is a common figure you may add 5 to the roll. If you roll 12 or higher and Crossbones would receive one or more wounds from that attack, ignore one of those wounds and inflict a wound on the figure chosen for Human Shield.


45% for opponents non common hero
70% for opponents common figure
70% for friendly non common hero
95% for friendly common figure.
95% for a common figure you control

I toyed with taking it up to a roll of 14 but since it's not stopping the rest of the attack and only offsetting 1 wound it shouldn't be too bad. and if it is we can push it to 14.

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

From a consistency standpoint I find it odd that when he uses Human Shield he can’t pick a figure with SS (presumably because they’re to strong) but for brutality it suddenly no longer matters. So I would be for adding the SS restriction to Brutality as well. I also agree with the changes to make Human Shield hit more often.
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As for the Human Shield Power, I'm leaning toward keeping the d20 roll for all but making the boosts so high that a squad figure you control only fails on a 1. That makes it 95% effective in that situation before d20 manipulators get involved.
So maybe a roll of 16 with +7 boosts? That's a roll of 16 for an enemy Unique, and a roll of 9 for enemy Commons and your Uniques.
I like that a lot. I definitely would want to keep the difference in ease between Commons and Uniques. Chap shouldn't be strong-arming Captain America as easily as a S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent.


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Old December 5th, 2019, 09:15 AM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

If we want to keep it consistent I'd rather Brutality just trigger on figures without Super Strength. How many of those have 5+ Attack anyways? The 4 cutoff seems arbitrary now that there's no direct tie to Crossbones own strength anyways.

That last +7 one sounds sensible to me.
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

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If we want to keep it consistent I'd rather Brutality just trigger on figures without Super Strength. How many of those have 5+ Attack anyways? The 4 cutoff seems arbitrary now that there's no direct tie to Crossbones own strength anyways.

That last +7 one sounds sensible to me.
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Odd thought, what if it just worked against squad figures? Nice and simple, won't get much use, but, then again, it looks like it's unlikely to in any event.


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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

Maybe just Common figures (without SS)? I could live with that, I guess. It matches up with Human Shield then.

I think I like Japes’ Human Shield 12.
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Initial Playtesting)

Common figures (or squad figures) works fine for me, as long as whichever one we pick is consistent with the bonus he's getting in Human Shield. Still wouldn't want the SS restriction though, and I think "common figures" as a rule are the sort of people that Crossbones can beat the hell out of, even if they're gorillas or robots or whatever.
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