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Old February 27th, 2018, 02:31 PM
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Re: The Book of Changeling

So I see the Cheetah form for Beast Boy has engagement strike in addition to the base move of 8. So it wasn't a full copy, Horse works great as a move only bonus.

The Changeling mini I have has him mid transformation into a Gorilla so I definitely want that one in there for animal forms (plus all the Gorilla figures we already created have a base attack of 6). Then their is another changeling mini option that has him turning into a Tiger, so maybe use Tiger instead of T-Rex or Bear? But then there is also a Green Tiger Beast Boy form so that form overlaps the two design spaces in terms of minis available.

My thought process on the T-Rex = extra wound after the fact is the idea of him having a very strong/big bite so he is essentially chewing on you when he scores a hit, 1W for the initial attack and then 1 additional W later from a double chomp move. The Bear = additional figure effected by the attack was along the lines of a double claw swipe useful for squads. Tiger could fill either theme I suppose.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 02:32 PM
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Re: The Book of Changeling

Doomed seems odd for a personality. Granted I've never read Doom Patrol but the little research I've done doesn't point to anything that makes you think they are aware that they are doomed. Doomed makes it feel like they were told they all had 1 year to live so the go all out fighting a good fight knowing that was all they had...

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Re: The Book of Changeling

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Wording wise, this would probably be the cleanest:

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MOVEMENT METAMORPHOSIS
Before moving normally, you may choose either the Cheetah, Eagle, or Rhino. If you chose:
Cheetah, add 3 to your move.
Eagle, you may use the Flying special power.
Rhino, Changeling may move through all figures and never takes leaving engagement attacks. After moving, roll an unblockable attack die for each figure you moved though this turn.

ATTACK METAMORPHOSIS
Before attacking normally, you may choose either the Bear, Gorilla, or T-Rex. If you chose:
Bear, choose one additional figure to be affected by this attack roll.
Gorilla, roll 2 additional attack dice.
T-Rex, if Changeling inflicts at least one wound on an adjacent figure with his normal attack, the defending figure receives one additional wound.

DEFENSE METAMORPHOSIS
Before rolling defense dice, you may choose either the Jack Rabbit, Porcupine, or Turtle. If you chose:
Jack Rabbit, after rolling defense dice, you may move 2 spaces. Changeling never takes leaving engagement attacks when moving with Defense Metamorphosis.
Porcupine, when rolling defense dice against a normal attack from a figure within 2 clear sight spaces, all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.
Turtle, roll 2 additional defense dice.
Not sure if that fits on a card, I'd have to check later. I made some edits to the wording to be standardized, but it could still use some refining.
Thanks! We can't get away with just 'choose one:' instead of listing the 3 choices by name? That would cut quite a bit of text and about 3 lines. Then on Porcupine you increased the effectiveness of the porcupine counter strike (I had capped it at 1W), did you do so because you feel he should be able to do more or just in an effort to save space?
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Old February 27th, 2018, 02:39 PM
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Re: The Book of Changeling

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Wording wise, this would probably be the cleanest:

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MOVEMENT METAMORPHOSIS
Before moving normally, you may choose either the Cheetah, Eagle, or Rhino. If you chose:
Cheetah, add 3 to your move.
Eagle, you may use the Flying special power.
Rhino, Changeling may move through all figures and never takes leaving engagement attacks. After moving, roll an unblockable attack die for each figure you moved though this turn.

ATTACK METAMORPHOSIS
Before attacking normally, you may choose either the Bear, Gorilla, or T-Rex. If you chose:
Bear, choose one additional figure to be affected by this attack roll.
Gorilla, roll 2 additional attack dice.
T-Rex, if Changeling inflicts at least one wound on an adjacent figure with his normal attack, the defending figure receives one additional wound.

DEFENSE METAMORPHOSIS
Before rolling defense dice, you may choose either the Jack Rabbit, Porcupine, or Turtle. If you chose:
Jack Rabbit, after rolling defense dice, you may move 2 spaces. Changeling never takes leaving engagement attacks when moving with Defense Metamorphosis.
Porcupine, when rolling defense dice against a normal attack from a figure within 2 clear sight spaces, all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.
Turtle, roll 2 additional defense dice.
Not sure if that fits on a card, I'd have to check later. I made some edits to the wording to be standardized, but it could still use some refining.
Thanks! We can't get away with just 'choose one:' instead of listing the 3 choices by name? That would cut quite a bit of text and about 3 lines. Then on Porcupine you increased the effectiveness of the porcupine counter strike (I had capped it at 1W), did you do so because you feel he should be able to do more or just in an effort to save space?
"You may choose one of the following:" has been used before...

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Old February 27th, 2018, 02:42 PM
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Re: The Book of Changeling

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did you do so because you feel he should be able to do more or just in an effort to save space?
I was just going through and using the verbiage from powers that already exist with those effects, to make sure the wording was standardized. That aspect was an oversight in that case.

As for using "you may choose one of the following", I know that's been used before, but has it ever been used where there's essentially a title to each effect? I understand that you want the animal name in there, so I was trying to make it seem natural to include that.

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Re: The Book of Changeling

I see what you are saying, I do want the animal forms directly referenced and not just the effects.
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Re: The Book of Changeling

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MOVEMENT METAMORPHOSIS
Before moving normally, you may choose either the Cheetah, Eagle, or Rhino. If you choose:
Cheetah, add 3 to Changeling's move.
Eagle, Changeling may use the Flying special power.
Rhino, Changeling may move through all figures and never takes leaving engagement attacks. After moving, roll an unblockable attack die for each figure Changeling moved though this turn.

ATTACK METAMORPHOSIS
Before attacking normally, you may choose either the Bear, Gorilla, or T-Rex. If you choose:
Bear, choose one additional adjacent figure to be affected by this attack roll.
Gorilla, roll 2 additional attack dice.
T-Rex, if Changeling inflicts at least one wound on an adjacent figure with his normal attack, the defending figure receives one additional wound.

DEFENSE METAMORPHOSIS
Before rolling defense dice, you may choose either the Jackrabbit, Porcupine, or Turtle. If you choose:
Jackrabbit, after rolling defense dice, Changeling may move up to 2 spaces. Changeling never takes leaving engagement attacks when moving with Defense Metamorphosis.
Porcupine, when rolling defense dice against a normal attack from a figure within 2 clear sight spaces, all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.
Turtle, roll 2 additional defense dice.
I like the format, need to be consistent with the subjects (either you or the figure). Also, keep everything in the present tense ("chose" --> "choose")

Jackrabbit is usually one word (unless you're talking about Peter's distant twice-removed third cousin, Jack -- which you shouldn't be talking about because the family has essentially disowned him).

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Re: The Book of Changeling

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My thought process on the T-Rex = extra wound after the fact is the idea of him having a very strong/big bite so he is essentially chewing on you when he scores a hit, 1W for the initial attack and then 1 additional W later from a double chomp move. The Bear = additional figure effected by the attack was along the lines of a double claw swipe useful for squads. Tiger could fill either theme I suppose.
I'd prefer different names from T-Rex and Bear since they're very different effects from Beast Boy's T-Rex and Bear forms.


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My thought process on the T-Rex = extra wound after the fact is the idea of him having a very strong/big bite so he is essentially chewing on you when he scores a hit, 1W for the initial attack and then 1 additional W later from a double chomp move. The Bear = additional figure effected by the attack was along the lines of a double claw swipe useful for squads. Tiger could fill either theme I suppose.
I'd prefer different names from T-Rex and Bear since they're very different effects from Beast Boy's T-Rex and Bear forms.
This. There are literally thousands of animals, extinct and still around, to choose from. Surely we can come up with some viable options.

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Re: The Book of Changeling

For instance, Polar Bear? I like Lion in place of T-Rex. Possibly Hyena for one as well? I think Hippopotamus and Elephant also offer interesting alternatives.

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Re: The Book of Changeling

So change Cheetah to Horse and Rhino to Elephant.

Then we have Tiger that could replace Bear or T-Rex, but which ever one it replaces would then become the Beast Bear Tiger card power should it ever get made. Which effect, two claw swipes or big bite, would you all rather see the Beast Boy form have? Since Bear form already has a Maul power, maybe give the Tiger the double claw swipe (could change it to straight double attack) or a pounce themed power. I'm not married to the extra wound or extra figure effected ideas so we can always change the power effects to better match new animal forms. With the Rhino/Elephant power already being a fairly good anti-crowd control power he doesn't necessarily need an anti-squad attack power too. Maybe a snake themed power (poison, coil crush)? Coil Crush could give him a d20 bypass defense attack option.

Tiger, attack one additional time.
Snake, instead of attacking choose an adjacent figure and roll the 20-sided die, on the roll of 13 or higher the chosen figure takes 1 wound.
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Or, you could just swap the Tiger here to Saber Tooth Tiger. Or Bengal Tiger.

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