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Old July 26th, 2021, 09:00 PM
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Leading the Charge requires him to be engaged.
Oh, yep. Yeah, I like that restriction.
Recognizing that, do you still think his attack should be lowered to 3? I could definitely understand it, but his non-movement cheerleader bonuses only come when he's without any other Heroes (Raelin, other Warlords, Fraser, etc.).
Absolutely. While his cheerleader abilities are nearly as good as Marcus's, his 8 Move is fantastic. Look at the premium the OD's put on movement (Templars, Groks, etc). That puts him well above Marcus as a combat unit already. Giving him 4 Attack (usually 5???) is not a good fit.
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Old July 26th, 2021, 09:53 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

He seems good, though strangely not with Greeks given his Personality. I'm wondering if his second power should just be all Soldiers attacking/defending adjacent figures so the 10th can really make the most of both his abilities. He's heavy cavalry so you could get away with 7 Move if that's more fair.

And as usual, every attempt to make the EI better is foiled by the Romans
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Old July 26th, 2021, 10:06 PM
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He seems good, though strangely not with Greeks given his Personality. I'm wondering if his second power should just be all Soldiers attacking/defending adjacent figures so the 10th can really make the most of both his abilities. He's heavy cavalry so you could get away with 7 Move if that's more fair.

And as usual, every attempt to make the EI better is foiled by the Romans
But there's also the Cathar Spearmen to consider.

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I was trying to force Parmenio’s Discipline power on him so Raelin can’t be as well. I’d be willing to test him as straight Disciplined if that’s preferred. The Romans have a lot of Warlords (aka Heroes preventing Final Stand to activate).

Every attempt to make EI better is foiled by their point value. Even Callister here can only get 2 squads in a 500pt army, definitely not enough to compete with high tier armies.

Cathar don’t love “Charge” powers (be it Callister or Fraser) because they don’t want to be the ones engaging (and prefer if it never officially happens).

I made the Final Stand bonus as is so that non-ranged Soldiers standing next to Callister could be protected against range.

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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

For me, the possibility of 9 move Romans/10 move Cathar is a bit of a theme break, even if it is unlikely to happen outside of high point-value "event" style games.
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For me, the possibility of 9 move Romans/10 move Cathar is a bit of a theme break, even if it is unlikely to happen outside of high point-value "event" style games.
This could already happen even before Fraser with MDG (+1), Road (+3), and Valda (+2). Obviously if you added Fraser and Callister you’d be up to a potential 14-move.

Regardless, the Knights, however unlikely, could move up to 21 spaces in a single turn with a 12 symbol dispatch, Valda, and Road bonus. And I’ve seen 5 symbol dispatches.

I’m interested to hear others opinions on the subject tho.

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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I know this rides a fine line with regards to triple-bonding, but I'm trying to find a way to give the Roman Archers some love. Seeking feedback to determine the potential of this design or something similar.



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At the beginning of each round, after placing Order Markers, you may move all Roman Archers you control up to 2 spaces each.

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Instead of attacking with Marius, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker that is on Marius' Army Card and take a turn with a squad of Roman Archers. During this turn, the Roman Archers may only use their Arrow Volley Special Attack.


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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

The problem here is that you're not improving the Roman Archers, you're improving the Roman Legionnaires, who don't need it. With Marius, you add in a squad of Archers to a Roman army, let them move into position for free, and then take an Arrow Volley shot instead of a bonding turn. Just leave Marius in the starting zone until an Archer goes down.

Though for the overall price, it's probably not good. Archers are too fragile; preventing an Arrow Volley is fairly trivial.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

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The problem here is that you're not improving the Roman Archers, you're improving the Roman Legionnaires, who don't need it. With Marius, you add in a squad of Archers to a Roman army, let them move into position for free, and then take an Arrow Volley shot instead of a bonding turn. Just leave Marius in the starting zone until an Archer goes down.

Though for the overall price, it's probably not good. Archers are too fragile; preventing an Arrow Volley is fairly trivial.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I'm working on a design for some henchmen from Motley Max's era, and I found some great sculpts that I need some feedback on.

As it stands, the squad name is "Jackals of the Wasteland"

MUTANTS
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JACKALS
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Being as that Motley's species is a mutant, and mutant is a rather broad term, can I label these guys as mutants as well? If not, what species recommendations do you have for me?



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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

IMO they look exactly like mutated Lizardfolk, so Mutant should work.


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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I'm happy with Mutant. That's a clever reuse of it. I don't care much for "Jackals," though. I suspect you can find something already established that's more suitable.

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