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Old February 1st, 2007, 09:23 AM
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Origins of HS Names

This is the edited and revised list of HeroScape name origins. Thanks to everybody who made contributions in this thread and elsewhere.

  • 4th Massachusetts Line – Taken from the “Massachusetts Line,” an army in the American Revolutionary War – the “4th Massachusetts Regiment” was instrumental in the battles of Bunker Hill and Trenton
    9th Roman Legion – A Roman legion that attacked the Vikings and other Barbarians in the British Isles
    Anubian Wolves – Named for Anubis, the God of the Dead in Egyptian mythology
    Ashigaru - Japenese soldiers
    Ashra - anagram for Sarah?
    Aubrien - Aubrey is the name of one of the designer's daughters
    Braxas – “Abraxas” is a demon in Egyptian mythology
    Charo – Singer/Actress from Spain "oochi! Coochi!"
    Crixus – Fought with Spartacus during the slave revolt
    Drake Alexander - Drake and Alexander are the names of two of the game designer's sons
    Dzu-Teh - The Sherpan word for Yeti
    Einar – A surname in Norse mythology and the name for Dwarves in the D&D Dragonlance series
    Eldgrim – Not sure, but check out eldgrim.com
    Esenwein - No doubt the makers of HS love the producer of Dungeons & Dragons II: Wrath of the Good Dragon
  • Finn – A person from Finland, also a legendary Danish warrior mentioned in Beowolf
    Guilty McCreech - named for Hasbro employee Will Creech
    Hatamoto – Samurai employed directly by the Shogun (Taro is a Japanese suffix-name that means eldest son)
    Hawthorne- Named after heroscapers.com's patron, SirGrungeBob
    Izumi – A province in Japan, a character in Pokemon
    Johnny Sullivan – From the heavweight, John Sullivan?
    Jotun – A giant in Norse mythology
    Kiova – Finnish name for the city of Kiev
    Kaemon – A Japanese surname
    Kozuke – A province in Japan
    Krav Maga – An Israeli martial art
    Kyrie – Valkyries in Norse mythology are female demi-gods who choose the best warriors in the afterlife (the word valkyrie literally means "choosers of the slain")
    Laglor - A gorilla who's missing his eye ("i")
    Lindesfarme - an English island with a Christian monastery, site of the first Viking raid on the "Christian west" in 793
    Macdirk – About as generic a Scottish name as you can come up with
    Me-Burq-Sa - Named for Mike Burque, one of the game's designers
    Microcorp - An underwater colony in Risk 2210 (designed by a member of the HeroScape team)
    Morsbane - One of the game designer's D&D characters
    Nakita – A Russian name (like Nakita Kruschev) and the name from the movie La Femme Nakita, about a female assassin
    Nerak - Anagram for Karen, a daugher of one of the game's designers
    Nilfheim – A world of ice and cold in Norse mythology
    Omnicron - Omni means "all" and cronos means "time" in Greek
    Parmenio –A general for Phillip II and Alexander
    Raelin – “Raelian” is the name of an international new-age cult
    Retchets - diminutive of the word wretch
  • Retiarius – A type of gladiator who fights with a net
    Sacred Band – A unit of male pedophilic Greeks warriors from Thebes who fought alongside their boy-lovers
    Saylind - anagram for Lindsay, a Hasbro employee
    Shaolin – a Chinese Buddhist temple where the martial art originated
    Sonlen- anagram from last name of Hasbro employee Chris Nelson
    Spartacus – Legendary gladiator-slave who led an unsuccessful revolt against Roman Republic
    Sudema – Anagram for Medusa
    Tagawa – A province in Japan
    Thaelenk - Anagram for Kathleen, someone from Hasbro staff
    Thorgrim – Icelandic cheiftan from the Gisla Saga
    Ullar – Thor’s son in Norse mythology
    Utgar - Utgard Castle was home of a giant king in Norse mythology
    Vydar – Odin’s son in Norse mythology
    Weston - named for someone on Hasbro staff, Derek Weston
Additionally:

  • Harquebus - a front-loading gun taken to Japan by the Portuguese (and later taken away from the military in a buy-back program)
  • Icaria - a Greek island
  • Wolf Swamp Road (scenario)- A street near the Hasbro Games Office
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Original from February 1, 2007

I first started noticing/getting irritated with the names HeroScape when my buddy complained about Sudema: “what, they couldn’t get the rights to just use Medusa?” Then I read about the Sacred Band in Larry Gonick’s “Cartoon History of the Universe” and, while researching an argument against Ehud Barak with my brother, I saw that he was trained as a Krav Maga specialist. And everybody knows about Spartacus.

With the help of Google, I put together the following list of HeroScape name origins. Some of these are probably a stretch, like “Kiova” coming from the Finnish name for Kiev, but other names seem like they were just completely lifted off a map. Anybody know some others?

  • • 4th Massachusetts Line – Taken from the “Massachusetts Line,” an army in the American Revolutionary War – the “4th Massachusetts Regiment” was instrumental in the battles of Bunker Hill and Trenton
    • 9th Roman Legion – A Roman legion that attacked the Vikings and other Barbarians in the British Isles
    • Anubian Wolves – Considering Khosumet’s Egyptian style, there is a connection with the Nubian people who live in Sudan and southern Egypt – during their days as the Ku****es, they conquered Egypt and kept the Romans at bay
    • Ashigaru - Japenese soldiers, see this recent thread and some others
    • Braxas – “Abraxas” is a demon in Egyptian mythology
    • Charo – Singer/Actress from Spain…”Coochi! Coochi!”
    • Crixus – Fought with Spartacus during the slave revolt
    • Einar – A surname in Norse mythology and the name for Dwarves in the D&D Dragonlance series
    • Eldgrim – Not sure, but check out eldgrim.com
    • Finn – A person from Finland, also a legendary Danish warrior mentioned in Beowolf
    • Hatamoto – Samurai employed directly by the Shogun (Taro is a Japanese suffix-name that means eldest son)
    • Izumi – A province in Japan, a character in Pokemon
    • Johnny Sullivan – From the heavweight, John Sullivan?
    • Jotun – A giant in Norse mythology
    • Kiova – Finnish name for the city of Kiev
    • Kaemon – A Japanese surname
    • Kozuke – A province in Japan
    • Krav Maga – An Israeli martial art
    • Kyrie – Flying humans from the D&D Dragonlance series
    • Macdirk – About as generic a Scottish name as you can come up with
    • Nakita – A Russian name (like Nakita Kruschev) and the name from the movie La Femme Nakita, about a female assassin
    • Nilfheim – A world of ice and cold in Norse mythology
    • Parmenio –A general for Phillip II and Alexander
    • Raelin – “Raelian” is the name of an international new-age cult
    • Sacred Band – A unit of male pedophilic Greeks warriors from Thebes who fought alongside their boy-lovers
    • Retiarius – A type of gladiator who fights with a net
    • Shaolin – A Chinese martial art
    • Spartacus – Legendary gladiator-slave who led an unsuccessful revolt against Roman Republic
    • Sudema – Anagram for Medusa
    • Tagawa – A province in Japan
    • Thorgrim – Name for Dwarves in the Warhammer series
    • Ullar – Thor’s son in Norse mythology
    • Vydar – Odin’s son in Norse mythology
I just want to know why they use Spartacus or Jotun and then they mix up Medusa’s name. That really irritates me. I don’t know why.

Now, I know some of the contributors have a penchant for flaming first-time posters and you’re going to think I’m trying to ruin the game for you or criticize me for not knowing every thread on the board. Just know that I’m having fun with the game.

Last edited by mvblair; April 16th, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason: Added some things 4/16/2008
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Old February 1st, 2007, 09:39 AM
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Welcome to 'Scapers.
While never giving much thought to the names, some seem like scabble pieces thrown on a table and put together in order of landing, your research is interesting. A small piece of me wonders what the naming process involves.

Again, Welcome
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Old February 1st, 2007, 10:10 AM
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What an awesome first post! Welcome to the boards mvblair. I think that as long as you present coherent messages here no one is going to flame you.

Several unit names have been assigned by Hasbro as nods to folks that have worked on the game itself. The Knights of Weston, Saylind, Nerak, and Sir Hawthorne come to mind. I'm sure that there are others that fall into that category too.

And the great thing about this community is that someone is going to come along shortly with a huge amount of this information codified into one useful post.

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Old February 1st, 2007, 11:27 AM
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On behalf of our well-named and flame retardant community I extend to you a laurel and a hearty handshake.

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What an awesome first post! Welcome to the boards mvblair. I think that as long as you present coherent messages here no one is going to flame you.

Several unit names have been assigned by Hasbro as nods to folks that have worked on the game itself. The Knights of Weston, Saylind, Nerak, and Sir Hawthorne come to mind. I'm sure that there are others that fall into that category too.

And the great thing about this community is that someone is going to come along shortly with a huge amount of this information codified into one useful post.

Cheers,
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The anubian wolves are probably more closely tied to Anubis, Egyptian lord of the dead:

But yeah, cool post! Interesting to hear this stuff!
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Re: Origins of HS Names

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Now, I know some of the contributors have a penchant for flaming first-time posters and you’re going to think I’m trying to ruin the game for you or criticize me for not knowing every thread on the board. Just know that I’m having fun with the game.
Hi mvblair!

Welcome to Heroscapers.com!

Now, I don't know where you got the idea that anyone is out to flame 1st time posters.
I like to think this community is very welcoming to new members.


Ture, some of the long time members don't like it when new members are rude (some here consider poor writing due to laziness to be rude,) or demanding, or for asking questions without looking at any of the stickies or the FAQ.

But your post it quite interesting! Name origins is one of my favorite subjects.

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Charo – Singer/Actress from Spain…”Coochi! Coochi!”

I'm pretty sure that Charo wasn't the inspiration for Charos!
I mean, he's a King, not a Queen. Charon is the name of the ferrryman from Greek mythology who transported souls across the River Styx to the underworld, the land of the dead, but that doesn't really seem to fit Charos at all, so there must be some other inspiration...
(Mark this one for further study.)

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Finn – A person from Finland, also a legendary Danish warrior mentioned in Beowolf
I like to think he's "Finn MacCool" of Celtic legend.

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Shaolin – A Chinese martial art
The Shaolin Monastary is the Buddhist temple where the martial art originated.

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Anubian Wolves – Considering Khosumet’s Egyptian style, there is a connection with the Nubian people who live in Sudan and southern Egypt – during their days as the Ku****es, they conquered Egypt and kept the Romans at bay
Hmmmm... I thnk there is a more likely another source...
Let's leave that "A" on there and we can easily relate them to Anubis...
He was the jackal headed god of the Dead in Eqyptian mythology.
I would say that Khosumet resembles Anubis even more than the Wolves, but I guess they are his underlings, thus "Anubian" wolves.

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Thorgrim – Name for Dwarves in the Warhammer series
Thorgrim is the name of an Icelandic Chieftan who was an ardent worshipper of Freyr. His name is found in the Gisla Saga.
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Wow, great first post/thread.

I would like to add my own contribution to the cause:

Microcorp Agents: In Risk 2210 (a game desirned by Craig, HS designer) one of the underwater colonies is named Microcorp.

Oh, & so you won't feel left out, here's your first "flame"

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Re: Origins of HS Names

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• Kaemon – A Japanese surname
Really? I never would've guessed
Seriously, did half of these actually require "research"? And half the rest are some of the biggest stretches I've ever seen. Charo? What is wrong with you?
Why in the world would it irritate you/anyone that the names of some Heroscape figures just happen to be similar to real life names? *GASP* How dare Hasbro take ideas from real life!
Especially any of Einar's troops, as, if you hadn't noticed, he's the historical general. So what if his guys come from real life?
And if this is Heroscape, the Battle for All Time, why the heck would it bother you that someone like the 4th Mass., who were instrumental at Bunker Hill bother you? Were they not heroes enough for you?!
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What an awesome first post! Welcome to the boards mvblair. I think that as long as you present coherent messages here no one is going to flame you.

Several unit names have been assigned by Hasbro as nods to folks that have worked on the game itself. The Knights of Weston, Saylind, Nerak, and Sir Hawthorne come to mind. I'm sure that there are others that fall into that category too.
And the great thing about this community is that someone is going to come along shortly with a huge amount of this information codified into one useful post.

Cheers,
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• Kaemon – A Japanese surname
Really? I never would've guessed
Seriously, did half of these actually require "research"? And half the rest are some of the biggest stretches I've ever seen. Charo? What is wrong with you?
Why in the world would it irritate you/anyone that the names of some Heroscape figures just happen to be similar to real life names? *GASP* How dare Hasbro take ideas from real life!
Especially any of Einar's troops, as, if you hadn't noticed, he's the historical general. So what if his guys come from real life?
And if this is Heroscape, the Battle for All Time, why the heck would it bother you that someone like the 4th Mass., who were instrumental at Bunker Hill bother you? Were they not heroes enough for you?!
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Hey Necroblade...chill out it's a first post and IMHO a very good first post.
He did say some of the ideas were a stretch, and I do not recall a statement that he was irrated by the 4th Mass. Just Sudema. I’m pretty sure he just investigated to see if there was a 4th Regiment in history or if Hasbro made up the number. And i'm also sure that Charo was ment as a
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Medusa of mythology was from Earth mythology and Sudema is from Feyland, therefore they could not use Medusa directly because that would contradict the storyline behind the character. Instead the loosly based her on Meduas and used a acronym to name her. IMHO…brilliant

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