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Old September 20th, 2017, 07:15 PM
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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

- Theme Test - Inconclusive, seeing as I donít know the character, but nothing felt wrong
- Mirror Test - Pass
- Bonding Test - Pass
- Mutant synergy is no issue, and due to Reluctant Avenger being his big thing, heís unlikely to be in any X-Men, Brotherhood or Horseman builds anyway - a Mutant sidekick could be nice for him but itís nothing massive. Apart from that, he has attack bonding with Kate, which, again, is fun and useful, but nothing scary.
- Synergies Test - Pass - Reluctant Avenger is a fun little bonus to a Young Avenger build. I am going to ask, though - ever consider expanding it to figures with Avengers Markers as well as Rookies? Would make army builds for him more versatile, and it feels a little weird to me for a power with the word Avenger in it not to reference AMs, but maybe that's just me, as I said, I don't know this guy.
- Power Check - Pass
- Fun Test - Pass
- Fun Competitive Test - Pass
- Drafting Test - Pass
, though only in a Rookie build.
- Usage Test - Pass - Molecular Destabilisation is niche, but nice if you see opponents' next to a weak DO, the enemy has clustered squaddies, or even if a mortally wounded hero can be picked off while next to an ally. I doubt I'd use it much, but if the opportunity comes up, it'll be pretty damn nice.
- Strategy Test - Pass - Reluctant Avenger makes him a good reserve force, and Molecular Destabilistaion has its strategic uses as I mentioned. Also, youíll want to make as much use of him as you can while heís stepping in for someone - heís better doing that than when you activate him normally, which is pretty interesting.

Name Of The Playtest Unit: Speed

Army Test 1
Map: Invasion (no glyphs)
Armies:
Speed, Stature, Noh-Varr, Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), Jubilee (790 points)
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Doctor Octopus, Parasite, Trapster, 2x LexCorp Security (790 points)
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Army Test 2
Map: Invasion (No Glyphs)
Armies;
Captain America (C3G), Speed, Noh-Varr, Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), Hawkeye (Clint Barton) (vII), Stature, Bucky (1,190 points)
vs.
Professor X, Storm, Beast, Wolverine, Firestar, Angel (Warren Worthington III), Toad (1,195 points)
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Thoughts On The Tested Unit's Cost, Balance, & Draftibility:

I think Iíve said everything I have to say. Iíll be honest, Iím not really excited about this guy, but heís a nice little addition to a faction which should, if Kate and Noh-Varr are any indication, be a blast to play.


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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

Yeah, Speed didn't set the world on fire for me, either, but he's a pretty solid little addition to the faction bud. He'll be a good workhorse when the faction is a little more robust.

Speed's never been associated with the actual Avengers (most of the Young Avengers haven't), so I don't think an Avenger Marker tie-in would really work for him.

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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

Thanks for the tests, LO! I'd be open to tweaking him to make him a little more exciting, but I also think he fits well the role I want for him. He should be a decent pick but nothing too major, just enough to help pull the faction together more.

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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

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Thanks for the tests, LO! I'd be open to tweaking him to make him a little more exciting, but I also think he fits well the role I want for him. He should be a decent pick but nothing too major, just enough to help pull the faction together more.

Still looking for another test or two here!
Don't worry too much about that - not every figure has to be exciting, and it doesn't sound like he's a very exciting character anyway. I'd be concerned that I'd never take hm if he were standalone, but fortunately he isn't, and he should make a fine workhorse for the Young Avengers. If you did feel the need to make him more exciting, I might suggest you boost MD and make it once per round, but that isn't really needed. I am wondering, though, if he's worth the full 170 - he didn't feel as good as Stature, at least to me, so I'd consider a drop to 160.


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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Speed

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Speed @170, Stature, Hawkeye (II), Noh-Varr (750) vs Scandal Savage, Catman, Bane, Black Alice (750)
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Speed @160, Stature, Hawkeye (Kate), Noh-Varr, Captain America (C3G), Rover (1120) vs Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Red Robin, Superboy (Kon-El), Jesse Quick (1120)
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GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Ran a couple more games, since we're a little short on testers. Like LO, I think he could easily get a soft bump down to 160. His value will go up as more Rookies come out, but he can be a little finicky to use.

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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

@TrollBrute

Anything specific you're still looking to see tested for Speed? Personally, I'd be fine moving him forward at 160-170 at this point.

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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

Sorry! Keep meaning to respond here but I was on vacation and have been busy for a while lately. I agree on bringing the cost down to 160. Was kinda hoping for a third tester, but because he's part of a faction that will see more testing, if everyone is good with 160, I'm okay moving him forward.

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Sorry! Keep meaning to respond here but I was on vacation and have been busy for a while lately. I agree on bringing the cost down to 160. Was kinda hoping for a third tester, but because he's part of a faction that will see more testing, if everyone is good with 160, I'm okay moving him forward.
No worries, figured you were just busy.

Pre-yea to Final Editing @ 160.

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Re: The Book of Speed - Danger Room Testing

Okay, since TB isn't around to push this along anymore, I'm proposing we move Speed to Final Editing at 160.
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I've got pictures of him that I need to post.

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