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#97
December 18th, 2007, 04:13 PM
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Mars, The Bringer of War = Metal
Carmina Burana = Metal Song of Storm and Fire = Metal Just because Carl Orff didn't have an electric guitar doesn't mean he didn't know how to rock. The same goes for Vivaldi. That guy is METAL. On another note, I don't really understand your argument for lyrics in another language. Just because you don't know what they're saying doesn't mean they can't possibly be expressing concrete ideas. I've known people who like to listen to things in other languages or watch foreign movies just because it makes them feel sophisticated and superior to everyone else. I certainly hope you're not one of those people. 
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#98
December 18th, 2007, 04:15 PM
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(BTW, my favorite is Bach. Toccata and Fugue in D minor for the win!!!!!!!!!)
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#99
December 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM
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What I'm saying is that if you view those songs in modern terms (well the first two, since Song of Storm and Fire is pretty recent), they can easily be considered metal.
By the way, Melissa Cross is a vocal coach who has taught many screamers such as Randy Blythe (Lamb of God), Angela Gossow (Arch Enemy), Philip Labonte (All That Remains), and Brian Fair (Shadows Fall) that heavily stresses enunciation. I've seen clips of her DVD and she's very serious about people being able to understand you when you scream. It shows when you listen to any of the above listed bands. They are screaming their heads off, but they're still easy to understand. I suggest anyone that doubts the connection between classical and metal to check out Melissa Cross. She knows what she's talking about.
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#100
December 18th, 2007, 04:35 PM
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Welcome to the Headbangers Ball, Pyre  
Vegetables aren't food. Vegetables are what food eats.
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#102
December 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM
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I just wanted to agree with Billtog that saying you only like lyrics in another language (like Latin or Italian) is an arbitrary distinction. Musically, the language shouldn't matter one iota, unless of course you want to understand the lyrics, in which case lyrics in a language you understand are usually best.
Personally I like songs with both lyrics with long instrumental portions. I'm a huge prog rock fan, so I'm thinking of songs like Supper's Ready by Genesis, and Close to the Edge by Yes. Bringing this back to metal I am thinking of songs like Octovarium and The Enemy Within by Dream Theater (James LaBrie, the singer, is opera trained), and Divine Wings of Tragedy and The Odessey by Symphony X (Michael Romeo, the guitarist, is classically trained).
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#103
December 18th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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Lord Pyre, yes, you need to stay out of politics.
 I understand that you have a creative ability to see with music in your mind's eye that is interfered with by lyrics. To relate, I can see an intense set of images with Metallica's instrumental, Kall of Ktulu. I even wrote a poem describing what I see. Other than the fact that I put it into rhyme, I believe my poem is no different than your description of that Russian composer's piece about oppression in the Soviet Union. I say that because you used words to describe what you saw and felt, in case I was unclear in my last sentence. Understand that these words are NOT meant to be put to music. They are not in step with the song at all, so don't try to sing them! I will give just the first part (the first two lines describe the intro, and the second two represent when the base line comes in): Ethereal raindrops sing upon the spectral wind Cadence to the madness; let the dance begin! Slow pondering, gigantic legs tramp through caverns cold Phantasms ride air charged with death, awaking beasts of old Aw, what the heck, here's the rest! :P Formless blobs of blasted flesh amble through the dark Spindle shapes with flailing limbs, exposed and beating hearts Faceless laughter, madness raging through the shrieking horde Naked, phosphorescent fiend leads them screaming to their lord Wave after wave, the writhing mass surges through tunnels deep Feasting on each other’s flesh, a frantic pace they keep Absu’s claws embedded in their brains and in their souls Insatiable, their lust for death drives them to its holes Flying demons thin their ranks, dripping fangs of ice Ichor spilt, stone is burnt; death will not suffice! Pleas for mercy escape the lips of half-devoured masochists Others laugh with madness as they are eaten by the ravenous Airborne squadrons of the damned, looping to the beat Thrashing chains of rabid demons maddened by the heat Scale clad, tailed and horned; taloned, fanged and winged Disemboweling as they go, viscera glistening 
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#104
December 18th, 2007, 09:02 PM
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So, music to me is like poetry to you. The words I only used to explain a little of what I feel, and you must know that everything I wrote still doesn't cover all of it.
And for lyrics in other languages? The human voice is beautiful. Just having the voice complements the music very well. (Usually, you know what I mean. Everything doesn't work everywhere) But in my opinion, as I made myself all-too-clear, lyrics restrain the music. But having the voice there, if sung right, is beautiful. O Fortuna for example. You don't know what it means, but you know it's a cool song. (Unless you know Latin, of course) After you research the lyrics, you can see what they're getting at, though. I, for one, only research lyrics in non-english music if I'm curious about what the song's really about. And Taeblewalker, nice poem. (As far as I can tell... Hehe....)
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December 18th, 2007, 10:32 PM
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December 18th, 2007, 11:56 PM
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#108
December 19th, 2007, 12:17 AM
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And, Jaques, perhaps I never said this.... But There's something about rock(Or metal)/choir/and orchestrated that appeals to me. That CD I really liked. Have you ever heard One-winged Angel? It probably another one of my favorite songs.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=B_MW65XxS7s&feature=related Tell me what you think.... And Onacara, you may stop trying to insult me. It's getting rather old rather fast.
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