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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
So far that seems to be the consensus. I will give it some time for others to chime in, as it is a significant change to king as well
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#74
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
Yeah, the triangle system increases her generalist value in relation to her factional value. Definitely would suggest another generalist test either way, as she felt pretty strong in my game.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
Here is my first re-attempt to address X OM problems and bring Deceptions down. I don't think these changes would cause any problems with Ace. This would not be my first choice, but I really want to see these designs proceed.
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#76
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
Are they supposed to be this powerful?
Because as written, suppose I have Q - OM 1 & 2 K - OM X A - OM 3 Here's how my turns go, assuming no one gets destroyed. Reveal OM1 on Q Take turn with Q Use ROYAL FLUSH 12 (rolled 12) Take turn with K Use ROYAL FLUSH 13 (rolled 12) Use KING'S COMMAND - reveal OM X on K to add 3 to roll (now 15) -- some would argue that the X can be revealed even if you don't need it to make the roll Take turn with A Use ACE UP THE SLEEVE - Attack with K, return revealed OM X to K's card Reveal OM2 on Q Take turn with Q Use ROYAL FLUSH 12 (rolled 9) Use KING'S COMMAND - reveal OM X on K to add 3 to roll (now 12) Take turn with K Use ROYAL FLUSH 13 (rolled 18 ) Take turn with A Use ACE UP THE SLEEVE - Attack with K, return revealed OM X to K's card Reveal OM3 on A Take turn with A For the round, my army took 7 figure turns and 2 additional attacks. If Q gets destroyed, A simply moves OMs to K. Not sure what the plan is for Jack. Quote:
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#77
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
I’m not seeing that as too powerful. Certainly not as powerful as rolling 12 on the Fan 4 three times in a round. Just synergistic and if you lose Ace your armies really struggle.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
I wanna comment on the faction building but haven’t had time to really focus on it. I‘ll try to comment more on it tomorrow.
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#79
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
So I've taken some time to look at the faction as a whole (assuming the ones in the Public Design Workshop are the most up-to-date ones) and I think the faction is really going to struggle offensively. Their attacks are all sitting around 3, leaving Ace and Deceptions as seemingly the main sources of damage. I'd definitely give Jack and Ten some way to be rolling 4 Attack dice, or maybe even 5.
Here's what I would personally do with the current designs. Quote:
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King's Command basically works like all the powers did before, but now it's just all centralized on King's card instead of being repeated in every power. That gives more reason to draft King, but I'm still not sure it really encourages taking a turn with him. If you're open to a more extensive change, what about something like this? Quote:
Idk, just some scattered thoughts. Main advice I can offer is to not move ahead until you, the LD, feel satisfied. |
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
I think Ace's OM shuffle power will still be valuable if you don't have to shuffle the X OM around every turn too so I am in favor of giving King the X OM boost for all of them. That also has the added benefit of making you want to play them together even more since it doesn't make Queen's Deception roll 9 in generalist builds.
I'm also fine making Charisma work within 2 spaces, but rather than limit Deceptions and Charisma to once per round I would consider upping the roll on each to 15+. Still an achievable number and 12 is still easy to hit with the X OM boost in play. I haven't played Queen yet but I did play the other two so this is just my |
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
I like making them more explicitly factional like that.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
Thank you for your ideas Nobody. This is sort of what I had in mind from the beginning. It was suggested early on in the design of the team to expand them to work outside the RFG so we kind of went in that direction. I think it would be better to reel them back together though.
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#83
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
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Deceptions is just an incredibly powerful ability. Not only is it a near 50/50 chance to misdirect your enemy’s attack, you can even use it to force the enemy to hurt themself, either by making them attack their own guy or switching the targeted figure out with a counterstriker. And while I definitely appreciate the thematics of the 12+ roll, it’s just an incredibly low threshold for that powerful of an effect. Like I said, even without King it’s a near 50/50 shot. Fantomex has a similar ability that only triggers on a 14+ and only when he is targeted, and he still is pretty costly for it. Others may disagree, but my gut instict is telling me that leaving her open to non-RFG characters like that, especially in such an easy-to-set-up way as simple adjacency, is going to heavily push her towards other builds, especially when none of the other RFG members are really offering anything to capitalize on being switched out. |
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)
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