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Old September 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM
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Re: 450 point army

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Stingers x3
Rats x2
445 - 19 hexes

I came up with this when building armies for our 440 tourney on NHSD. Obviously I can't play it, but it's amazing what just an extra 5 points can get into your army.

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Old September 30th, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: 450 point army

Cap/Krav/Raelin is just pure nasty at 400 points - I've had a heck of a time beating that in 400 point army tests. Adding the Marros does seem like a natural step, given your army set. I haven't tested that army but I assume it would do pretty well.

The best TKN army I can think of with your set at 450 is either TKN + grubsx3 + AE + Eldgrim, or TKN + grubsx3 + Raelin + Marro Warriors + Isamu. Both look really solid to me.
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Re: 450 point army

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Cap/Krav/Raelin is just pure nasty at 400 points - I've had a heck of a time beating that in 400 point army tests. Adding the Marros does seem like a natural step, given your army set. I haven't tested that army but I assume it would do pretty well.

The best TKN army I can think of with your set at 450 is either TKN + grubsx3 + AE + Eldgrim, or TKN + grubsx3 + Raelin + Marro Warriors + Isamu. Both look really solid to me.
Although I have 3 x Grubs in the pool, I really only have 2 in hand. I discovered this after i created my pool.

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Re: 450 point army

Sorry to semi-necro this thread, but I am looking at running a big Heroscape event at a small convention in late January, and have been looking at 450 point armies. The players there will probaly all be noobs, so I am not looking for a Gencon Champ army. Here is what I have already. I need x2 for Utgar and Jandar and x1 for the other generals, including Aquilla.

Einar

Casear's Praetors

x3 Roman Legionaries-150
x3 Roman Archers-315
Marcus Decimus Gallus-415
Guilty McCreech-445

I picked this build for flavor, and for the power that new players will feel when they run this huge group of soldiers down the map, mowing down all in their path. I know its has archers, but they price well for the army.

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Robo Rampage

x2 Blastatrons-120
x1 Gladiatrons-200
x1 Major X17-300
x1 Major Q10-450

This matches the point total perfectly, it contains a strong range hero, a good bonding combo, and a decent melee hero.

Aquilla

Dwarves and Indians

x2 Mohican River Tribe-140
x1 Brave Arrow-190
x1 Migol Ironwill-300
x2 Axegrinders of Burning Forge-440

I know that this may seem a better army if I went all dwarves or all indians, but I feel that the players will be better off with a strong range and strong melee group, instead of a superb in either of those categories. It also fits the Aquilla bill nicely, using some of the new units together. Plus, Migol has a Gorilla shield.

Ullar

Elves of Feylund

x2 Warriors of Ashra-100
x1 Aubrien Archers-170
x1 Syvarris-270
x1 Kyntela Gwyn-290
x1 Sonlen-450

This army hits the spot perfectly for points. It also keeps a strong theme, with a good range and good melee, as long as Kyntela Gwyn keeps up. Sonlen is a good rouge character for this army, as he can take out enemies that stray to far from the fight.

Jandar


Omnicron Sniper Platoon

x3 Omnicron Snipers-300
x2 Omnicron Repulsors-380
x1 Zetacron-440

Although short by 10 points, it is packed full of flavor. The repulsors will sit well as semi-melee troops, and the Snipers will excel on the map, due to the huge castle in the middle.

The Colonial Knights of the Viking Kyrie's Roundtable

x2 4th Massachsetss Line-140
x2 Knights of Weston-280
x1 Concan-360
x1 Finn the Viking Chamion-440

I used an army similar to this last year, but was limited to x1 4th Mass. This year, I plan to bring some more for a stronger force. The reason for Concan instead of another Champion, is because last year, he went on a rampage, killing about 20 figures in an onslaught that brought him the title of "Bearer of the Chainsword!"

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Rage of the Moon

x2 Anubian Wolves-150
x2 Wolves of Badru-310
x1 Khosumet-385
x2 Dumutef Guards-435

Although it is the shortest on points, it was a lethal army at the event last year. The speed of the wolves, and the pounce ability cause their threat range to be that of a decent range unit. I liked this army last year as well, and want to see them star again.

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x2 Blade Gruts-80
x1 Grimnak-200
x2 Arrow Gruts-280
x1 Heavy Gruts-350
x1 Nerak-400
x2 Swog Riders-450

This army was different last year, consisting of x1 of Blades and Arrows and including Tornak, but with the Wave 1 rerelease, I was able to throw together a better force. The only possibilty I could think of changing it is getting rid of the heavy gruts for some more arrows and a swog. But the Heavys do form a strong melee force that isn't mearly cannon fodder.

Give me some ideas guys. I don't need armies that are spectacular, but ones that follow a single general, are themed, and don't exceed x3 commons.

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Re: 450 point army

Just thought I would add our recent 450 point tourney winners army.

Deathchasers X 2
Ogre Warhulk
Krug
Arrow Gruts X 1
Swog Rider X 1
445 points

This beat some awesome armies like:

Minions of Utgar X 3
Torin
450 Points

and

Snipers X 2
Phantom Knights X 2
Dund (yes they used Dund and stole two order markers from the Deathchasers.)
450 Points
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Re: 450 point army

These are armies I'm considering for an upcoming Heroscape / Summoner Wars combined tournament that forces 300 Points of your 450 Point army to follow the same race as your Summoner Wars deck (I really need to figure out which deck I'm playing.... leaning towards Elves or Undead):

Phoenix Elves:

Acolarh - 110
Aubrien Archers x2 - 250
Warriors of Ashra x4 - 450, 19 hexes

Sonlen - 160
Raelin - 240
Aubrien Archers x3 - 450, 11 hexes

Tundra Orcs:

Grimnak - 120
Nerak - 170
Heavy Gruts x4 - 450, 20 hexes

Deathchasers x5 - 275
Nerak - 325
Ogre Pulverizer - 425
Drow Chainfighter / Swog Rider- 450, 17,18 hexes

Guild Dwarves:

Migol Ironwill - 110
Darrak Ambershard - 170
Axegrinders x4 - 450, 18 hexes

Mogrimm Forgehammer - 120
Axegrinders x4 - 400
Marro Warriors - 450, 21 hexes

Cave Goblins:

Goblin Cutters x4 - 200
Horned Skull Brutes x2 - 350
Iron Golem - 450, 24 hexes

Goblin Cutters x3 - 150
Horned Skull Brutes x4 - 450, 24 hexes

Vanguards:

Sir Denrick - 100
Knights of Weston x3 - 310
4th Massachusettes line x2 - 450, 21 hexes

Sir Gilbert - 105
Knights of Weston x4 - 385
Zetacron / Sam Brown - 445, 19/18 hexes

Marcus Decimus Gallus - 100
Roman Legionaries / Sacred Band x4 - 300
10th Regiment of Foot x2 - 450, 25 hexes (sit a melee soldier)

Fallen Kingdom:

Cyprien Esenwein - 150
Sonya Esenwein - 195
Death Knights x3 - 375
Dumutef Guard x3 - 450, 14 hexes

Cyprien Esenwein - 150
Zombies of Morindan x5 - 450, 16 hexes

Cyprien Esenwein - 150
Sonya Esenwein - 195
Phantom Knights x2 - 335
Airborne Elite - 445, 12 hexes

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Re: 450 point army

Ironically enough, in February I have a group of tournaments at TotalCon which are all 450 points. The only army I may need help will be my Championship army....beyond that, I'm totally playing fun armies which are fairly competitive.

Theoretical Championship Army:

2x Air Elemental (60 points)
3x Death Knights (195 points)
Q9 (180 points)
Isamu (10 points)
445 points

I want to play Death Knights as well as Mezzodemons at some point during the convention. I'm thinking the Death Knights are more well suited towards championship play. But...it may change, my other theoretical army for the championship:

3x Mezzodemons (195 points)
Kaeman Awa (120 points)
Raelin (80 points)
Marro Warriors (50)
445 points

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Re: 450 point army

Here's my army that I made for TotalCon in hopes that I can go.

MotH-140
Frost Giant-280
Sir Denrick-380
KoW-450

I am torn between the Frost Giant and Eltahale. Both have proven themselves in my army, but I still can't decide.

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Re: 450 point army

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Here's my army that I made for TotalCon in hopes that I can go.

MotH-140
Frost Giant-280
Sir Denrick-380
KoW-450

I am torn between the Frost Giant and Eltahale. Both have proven themselves in my army, but I still can't decide.
I think you should ditch the MotH and add Knights of Weston x2 (if you have them - if not, I'd seriously consider borrowing them. Knights x3 is way, way, way better than Knights x1 and a MotH), and then decide between Frosty and Eltahale. Or instead of adding 2 more Knight squads, add 1 more and a 60 Pointer (Zetacron or Marro Warriors + Isamu) and upgrade Denrick to Gilbert (if you have him).

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Re: 450 point army

Some new stuff from D3

Deathchasers X 4 220
Ogre Warhulk X 1 150
Rotv Raelin 80
450

Green scales X 3 180
MC 170
Kma 100
450

Frost giant 140
4th mass X 4 280
Elgrim 30
450

Eltahale 140
10th Foot X 4 300
Isamu 10
450

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Re: 450 point army

Unfortunately I only have one squad of the knights, but I will test out my army with the changes you have offered.

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Re: 450 point army

At Florida Frenzy 4.0 earlier in October, I used Cyprien, Sonya and Stingers at 400 points. So how about:
Vampires and Marro
Cyprien----150
Sonya----195
Stingers x4----435
Isamu----445

Stingers can take the squads on and Cyprien can take the Heroes. Sonya will boost him. Once all is gone, Isamu can take on Jandar and hopefully anyone else left.


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