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Brave Arrow 17 23.94%
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 04:36 PM
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Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

The Unit Debates have officially moved to the Official Units Forum!

With the 4th of July tomorrow, I have decided to go ahead and start next week's Unit Debate in case any Heroscapers will not be on tomorrow. And to celebrate the release of Wave 9, I shall have a debate between two units from Wave 9. This week is between the Mohican Native American Brave Arrow, and the Dwarf Leader Migol Ironwill. Who will be that last standing?



I am not asking for some strategies to use, though you could name some if you like. I am asking in your opinion, with proof shown, who you believe is the better unit.

With these Heroes, you may discuss thier bonding units with them also, and/or units that are directly affected by thier presence (i.e. Mohican River Tribe).
EDIT: I highly suggest you use thier main bonding units in this debate when considering whom is better.


Compare the units by looking at thier:

1. Stats/Special Powers

2. Playability

3. Overall Usefullness

4. Who Would Win Head-To-Head

5. Army Builds

Here is an example of how to answer:


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Originally Posted by Einar Gen.
I think most of the time the knights would have the advantage.The way I see it, the knights are good, well rounded figures capable of taking down other squads in decent time due to their 3 atk dice, and lasting for a longer time against heroes due to their 4 defense dice and coward's reward. The gladiators, on the other hand, are heavy hitters. There is one less member to a squad, but most of the time they will have 1 better move and attack than the knights, resulting in better chances of killing tougher targets. Honestly, it's hard to compare the two cause of how different they are. But if it came down to an all out brawl, my money'd be on the knight's squads and the gladiator's heroes.


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Hint for next week's debate:

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Last edited by MegaSilver; July 3rd, 2009 at 05:50 PM. Reason: I highly suggest you use thier main bonding units in this debate when considering whom is better.
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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

BA. Now someone tell me why MI is better and we can start a debate.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

I vote migol.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

Why? BA is cheaper and semi-bonds with a more competitive squad IMO. He does something better with decent stats and amazing defense at range. MI isn't really viable without the Dwarves and with them he is slowing them down, holding them back.

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Don't know why it is so funny. It just is.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

I'd say Migol would win in a head-to-head due to his Deadly Strike and One Shield Defense. As well as in overall usefulness, IMO, neither of them offer a whole lot of synergy with other units, except for Mr. Mohican's melee support but, it isn't worth much.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

I voted Migol, simply because I think I'll be using him more, but here's my opinion:
This debate does not work quite as well as the others, simply because these are two units who couldn't be more different. Head to head, Migol would win, hands down. Neither is extremely useful without their squad. Migol is capable of being a competitive figure by himself in a casual game, where as BA would not last as long. Migol, however, is 110 points, making him an early choice when drafting. Brave Arrow is an absolute beast for 50 points, making him a great filler. As I've said, they're both very different, making it hard to choose. For now though, I'll go with Migol.
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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

After Krug and Charos, Migol will appear as the most dominant melee hero in the game.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

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I voted Migol, simply because I think I'll be using him more, but here's my opinion:
This debate does not work quite as well as the others, simply because these are two units who couldn't be more different. Head to head, Migol would win, hands down. Neither is extremely useful without their squad. Migol is capable of being a competitive figure by himself in a casual game, where as BA would not last as long. Migol, however, is 110 points, making him an early choice when drafting. Brave Arrow is an absolute beast for 50 points, making him a great filler. As I've said, they're both very different, making it hard to choose. For now though, I'll go with Migol.
I believe that is the essence of a debate. Both sides are hard to argue, since they are both very good in different situations. One side can be better depending on conditions, in any kind of debate. I believe that a good debate is one that you can argue one side when it is very hard to choose either. You've made a good point, Einar's Gen.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

Migol is a mix between a beatstick and a tank. Oh yeah, and he bonds. The MRT's bonding is fickle, but the dwarves bonding with Migol can do a lot of damage in a turn. He's also pretty good by himself, expecially as an end of the game clean up figure.
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Oh, I forgot to give the hint for next week's debate!

Look above.

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Re: Unit Debate #4 -- Brave Arrow Vs. Migol Ironwill

Migol. Here's why.

1. He's guaranteed to bond. Brave Arrow requires some maneuvering to get him to work.

2. His squad has 4 people in it whose survivability is similar to that of Brave Arrow's who only have a squad of 3.

3. He's a beast to take out. Engage Brave Arrow with anything decent in melee and he's toast.

4. Migol is far more likely to kill some of the tougher units in the game than Brave Arrow will be able to.

Both are very solid figures but fill different parts in an army. Brave Arrow is a lot trickier to use but he hurts a lot when he's engaged with anything that's decent in melee. Honestly haven't played either so this is all theoryscape until I get my Wave 9. I'll let you know if my opinion changes after that.


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