Age of Annihilation - Backer Trend and Discussion

[Nukatha]

Is it correct to assume that the Haslab has not yet opened up to areas other than North America as of yet?

[rudyvalentine]

Originally Posted by Nukatha

Is it correct to assume that the Haslab has not yet opened up to areas other than North America as of yet?

No, I believe they are open to EU now but it’s a EU web address.

[rudyvalentine]

Simply adding color to the box art really makes a huge difference from that drab box image that was on the has lab previously.

I knew it wouldn’t look like that in the end, but it was upsetting every time I saw it. I tried not to accidentally scroll onto it but now it’s slappin!

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by rudyvalentine

They admitted they know they are eliminating a demographic by not having a lower buy in option and they decided that was ok. I think that’s a mistake when you have limited reach and a smaller fan base. You need everyone you can get. The low hanging fruit I was referencing are the ones who would pay less for less.

I'd be interested to hear what kind of market research they did that made them think they could afford to eliminate demographics. They've eliminated most demographics out there that aren't in two or three countries, just off the bat. They've eliminated the prepainting only demographic. Their marketing suggests largely depending on the existing player demographic. They seemed poised to eliminate a lot of the nostalgia demographic with a change to card shapes and even now with a change to the card layouts, and with a decision to largely avoid straight up historical figures. They eliminated the mini only demographic and the terrain only demographic. They eliminated the casual interest/impulse buy demographic. They limited the common add on demographic.

Like I understand that they have individual reasons for all of these choices and they could easily justify to themselves and us why they made these choices. Just like they could easily justify that the game is expensive and why they need millions of dollars from us to start up and the almost $700k the community has largely raised for them is not close to enough.

But when you add together all the demographics they're eliminating and all the profit they're asking for, I have to start wondering: where did they think the money was going to come from? And did they get it right? Is it still on its way?

Originally Posted by Nukatha

Is it correct to assume that the Haslab has not yet opened up to areas other than North America as of yet?

I believe it's been open to the UK and Canada and some parts of Western Europe and that it's not going to open up to other areas. There is a partnership with another company that lets Australians back it for like $800 a pop.

[UtahScott]

Originally Posted by Nukatha

Is it correct to assume that the Haslab has not yet opened up to areas other than North America as of yet?

UK is separate, EU is separate (four countries, can't remember which, other than Germany)--they've been active for a couple weeks now?

[randum]

They just updated the page with the character cards today:
https://hasbropulse.com/blogs/avalon...ion-compendium


Edit:
Queen Maladrix The Conqueror has some updated stats:
- - Skordyre --> Skodyre
- - Devourer --> Queen
- - H12 --> H13
- - Infestation power description:
- - - - - "...you may place one of your previously destroyed..."
- - - - - "...you may place one of your destroyed..." (there's an extra space on the card)
- - There's also a grammar error in the last power:
- - - - - "...you may first take a turn with Festering Honor Guard you control."

[Yodaking]

Yeah, the idea of a big company just turning away money when customers want to give it to them is foreign to me. The reality is people are different, with different needs, different wants, different resources, different priorities, different likes, different budgets, living in different situations, etc. Some customers are going to want lots of terrain. Some customers are going to want only the minis. Some will want some combination of both without getting everything. Some customers are going to want multiples of specific minis, just one copy of some, and none of others. Some can only afford to make a small purchase right now. Others can spend a great deal, but need some reason to spend that money. To tell all the potential customers of your product that they can only buy one specific (large) set of different items at one specific (substantial) price, no exceptions, seems rather crazy.

They could have raised more money from me, and many others, but they refuse to let us give it to them. I've definitely pledged more than $250 for a game/mini's/terrain fund raising campaign, but I was able to tailor my pledge to meet my needs/desires. I've also pledged much less, when I only was interested in a few things being offered. Those smaller pledges still added to the pot of money raised and helped reach or surpass the funding goals.

[Grim]

The Haslab page looks great now! Likewise the sculpts, the new units cards and stats, the new terrain. Overall it looks very Heroscapey to me, while being updated in interesting ways. My main knocks are unpainted, which I now understand, and the lack of historical units, which I don't. Overall though it's very exciting and a huge amount of stuff.

But, I think they still need to do more, or it doesn't seem like it's going to make it. Mainly, extend the deadline. Second, do a big marketing push, using the right channels (whatever they may be, beats me). And please, somehow find a way to add lower-cost options. A $100-120 set, a terrain pack, etc.

[TREX]

@IAmBatman , and @Yodaking , all your points are spot on exactly with what I'm thinking. I'm no stranger to kickstarters myself. I've spent plenty of money on most of the ones I backed. Most were around 100 to start, but I ended up spending much more. It's pretty ridiculous that they don't want to include the rest of us in their target audience. If they covered your points they'd probably get easily twice the amount they need. @Knox , I get what you're after but no thank you. I don't have any interest in splitting things, paying extra shipping, dealing with any middleman fees, or shenanigans. At what point would you be qualified in determining what is worth what in the box since you aren't the one manufacturing it? In no way is this comment supposed to affend you, just facts of the matter. If the huge company running a kickstarter project can't seem to make it to where I just do business directly to them, I'm not interested. They could do these changes if they wanted. It's been done. Many times. It should be even easier since it's on their own platform? If there were a pack that had just the miniatures at a price comparable to the pricing they are doing with the full set I'd probably pick it up.

[randum]

Originally Posted by Grim

And please, somehow find a way to add lower-cost options. A $100-120 set, a terrain pack, etc.

Terrain pack por favor.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by randum

- - There's also a grammar error in the last power:
- - - - - "...you may first take a turn with Festering Honor Guard you control."

It's right, it just reads awkwardly. "Festering Honor Guard" is a unit.

[IAmBatman]

Shouldn't it still be "a Festering Honor Guard"?