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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
He wanted to until he was there, then it was too much and he wanted out. But Wally left him there. As far as other Speedsters, I agree that it's Wally, then Barry, then everyone else. Even Savitar is slower than both of them. One is the living Speed Force, the other it's greatest user.
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I haven't really read a lot of the post-Rebirth Barry stuff, so I don't have that context for Barry, but my impression of Barry (pre-death) is that he was considerably slower than where Wally is circa the Savitar fight, so he'd be slower than Savitar as well. Pretty sure Barry gets his powers upgraded with Rebirth, but I haven't read it in a while. |
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Re: Ronin's Danger Room Workshopping Thread
Well, two things on that:
1. The bonding doesn't necessarily need to be movement focused 2. Keeping the bonus movement timed in sync with Black Widow makes them an appealing pair, IMO, because they can infiltrate together more easily. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: Ronin's Danger Room Workshopping Thread
IMO, I quite like the idea of mixing Espionage-style movement and attack based bonding.
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Sorry, but your impression of Barry is wrong. Before Barry's Death, he was 100% officially the fastest speedster. After his death, Wally struggled to live up to his mantle and his own self-doubt kept him from passing Barry. Eventually, when fighting Eobard Thawne Zoom, he realized this and embarrassed that though he might be faster than Barry, Barry would never be forgotten. He was then significantly faster than Zoom who had only been ever so slightly slower than Barry, which was combated by his lack of mercy and viciousness. Suddenly, Wally was much faster and basically took Zoom down with relative ease. He officially accepted his place as the fastest man alive. Fast Forward to Flash: Rebirth (by Johns, not the company-wide event) and Barry returned, faster than before with him tagged to be the new Black Flash. Long story short, he dicovered that when he had his accident, he created the Speed Force and it existed in him. This is when Thawne created his negative Speed Force to counter act. At this point, DC was resolved to have them both normally be the same top speed, but that each, when digging deep and exerting themselves could exceed that in different ways. Barry could outrun the mantle of the Black Flash and shut off speed from others, while Wally could run into and out of the Speed Force at will, as well as lend speed to others.
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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
I think we have some crossed wires, because that reads to me like an agreement with what I said more than a disagreement. Barry's the fastest, he dies, Wally eventually surpasses him, Barry comes back and is portrayed as being closer to Wally's level. Sounds right to me.
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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
Up until the last part. When he returns, they basically say, "No, Wally isn't the fastest, he's really the same speed as Barry."
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Would it actually work in practice? No idea. Probably needs a lot of refinement. |
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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
Hivemind is really cool! Machine Gun is pretty useless in practice imo, not sure if that's the plan.
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Re: Ronin's Public Workshopping Thread
It's a reuse.
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