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Old November 25th, 2012, 06:23 PM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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In that version, Zatanna doesn't make him invincible because the marker isn't on another Army Card.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

I think that version works, quozl. Though we do need to be extra vigilante and make sure we don't end up with any situations where all the figures in play are invincible like we had with Lex/Clayface.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Had another thought. How about instead of Crow getting an extra attack die against whoever has the bird, that figure rolls one fewer defense die? That way anyone can benefit, meaning they'll possibly take wounds more often, bringing the bird back to Crow. Also, having a crow buzzing around your head is probably going to distract you a ton. (In the film, the crow tore out a characters eyes while Draven was shooting other people. Pretty awesome. ).

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Works for me.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

One more thing, how about a class change to Revenant? Getting tired of all these Vengeful Spirits. Could work as race as well, I suppose, but it seems more like a class to me.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

I like Vengeful Undead Revenant.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

I have no idea what Revenant means, but if you feel it fits ....

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Doesn't it just mean a spirit?
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

A revenant is basically a spirit or something that comes back from the dead for a purpose (Usually for something sinister).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenant

Yeah, the Crow is a good guy, but coming back to murder people, even bad people, is still pretty sinister, so I think it's thematic.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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SECRET IDENTITY = ERIC DRAVEN

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = REVENANT
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 185?

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Whenever one of your figures is destroyed by an opponent’s figure, and the Crow Marker is on this card, you may place the Crow marker on the opponent’s figure. Any figure besides The Crow with the Crow Marker on it's card rolls one fewer defense die.

DOUBLE ATTACK
When The Crow attacks, he may attack one additional time.

LIVE FOR VENGEANCE
While your Crow marker is on another Army Card, The Crow will not take any wounds. If the figure with your Crow marker receives 1 or more wounds from an attacking figure, after that figure’s turn, place your Crow marker on this card. While your Crow marker is on this card and The Crow receives 1 or more wounds from an opponent’s attack, roll the 20-sided die. On a 1-4, remove your Crow marker from the game.
Alright, so is this what we're thinking, then? I upped his attack to 4 to compensate for the crow marker reducing defense, instead. I'm actually a little worried that his 4 life and defense might make him too vulnerable, but I could be underestimating him.

SirG, did you still have another idea? I'm still open to other suggestions, but I'm really liking what we have here now.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

This looks like it could work.

Still need to determine where the Crow Marker starts the game.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

What SirG said.

Also, in the first power, it should be "its card" not "it's card."

In the second power there's a clarity issue with all the "figure" references. Here's a suggested tweak:

LIVE FOR VENGEANCE
While your Crow marker is on another Army Card, The Crow will not take any wounds. If the figure with your Crow marker receives 1 or more wounds from an attacking figure, after the attacking figure’s turn, place your Crow marker on this card. While your Crow marker is on this card and The Crow receives 1 or more wounds from an opponent’s attack, roll the 20-sided die. On a 1-4, remove your Crow marker from the game.

He'll definitely be way too vulnerable with 4 life, 4 defense with this version. Basically enemy figures will either take him out first and ignore the Crow all together (not too hard to do) or they'll destroy another figure first, the best the Crow will get out of it is one attack where the attacking figure has -1 defense, and then the Crow will come back to him and the enemy will destroy him.

I'd like to see you consider these changes as well:

1. Clarify that the Crow marker starts on his card.
2. While the Crow marker is on his card, basically give him Magical Defense where he can't take more than one wound from a single attack - or add to his defense significantly.
3. Bump his life to 5.

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