Heroscapers
Go Back   Heroscapers > Custom HeroScape Creations > Custom Units & Army Cards > C3V and SoV Customs
C3V and SoV Customs A place for C3V and SoV customs


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #5665  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 11:51 AM
Dad_Scaper's Avatar
Dad_Scaper Dad_Scaper is offline. Isn't that smurfy?
Counting gray cells and coming up short... Also, I confess to being a fanboy.
 
Join Date: January 3, 2007
Location: MD - Baltimore
Posts: 26,591
Images: 4
Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Yes, you are exactly right, as I see it. People seem to like this nominee. I know I do. But one of his defining features is strongly associated with D&D-style trolls, and specifically not with Valhalla trolls. Of which there is an example.

So I think you're exactly right. The bio you've given is the problem you've seen here, because of the association with Valhalla. Remove or change the bio, thus allowing for a more natural home world for this design, and you wouldn't have this problem with canon consistency.

I don't see anything confusing here at all.

C3V "Easily the best quality classic customs I have ever seen."
Designing Customs? Help With Wurdz
= =
Reply With Quote
  #5666  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 11:57 AM
Sir Heroscape's Avatar
Sir Heroscape Sir Heroscape is offline
Sir Formerly Known As adoney
 
Join Date: September 14, 2015
Location: U.S - Idaho - Boise
Posts: 7,283
Images: 106
Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death!
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
The bio you've given is the problem you've seen here, because of the association with Valhalla. Remove or change the bio, thus allowing for a more natural home world for this design, and you wouldn't have this problem with canon consistency.
Done. My original submission post has been updated without a Bio and association with Valhalla as his home world. That should take care of the reservations for this submission.
Reply With Quote
  #5667  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 11:58 AM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Playing with wedding bells (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,472
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 40
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
Yes, you are exactly right, as I see it. People seem to like this nominee. I know I do. But one of his defining features is strongly associated with D&D-style trolls, and specifically not with Valhalla trolls. Of which there is an example.
Wait, there’s an example of Valhallan Trolls? Krug is from Feylund, if you mean him. The Dumutef is the closest thing to a troll from Valhalla, but it still isn’t a troll.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #5668  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:05 PM
superfrog's Avatar
superfrog superfrog is online now
This is merely a joke.
 
Join Date: March 12, 2012
Location: USA - CA - San Gabriel
Posts: 10,854
Images: 7
Blog Entries: 1
superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth superfrog is a man of the cloth
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by flameslayer93 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
Yes, you are exactly right, as I see it. People seem to like this nominee. I know I do. But one of his defining features is strongly associated with D&D-style trolls, and specifically not with Valhalla trolls. Of which there is an example.
Wait, there’s an example of Valhallan Trolls? Krug is from Feylund, if you mean him. The Dumutef is the closest thing to a troll from Valhalla, but it still isn’t a troll.
They're referenced offhand in one of the RoTV scenarios if I remember correctly.

Reply With Quote
  #5669  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:06 PM
Dad_Scaper's Avatar
Dad_Scaper Dad_Scaper is offline. Isn't that smurfy?
Counting gray cells and coming up short... Also, I confess to being a fanboy.
 
Join Date: January 3, 2007
Location: MD - Baltimore
Posts: 26,591
Images: 4
Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth Dad_Scaper is a man of the cloth
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by flameslayer93 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
Yes, you are exactly right, as I see it. People seem to like this nominee. I know I do. But one of his defining features is strongly associated with D&D-style trolls, and specifically not with Valhalla trolls. Of which there is an example.
Wait, there’s an example of Valhallan Trolls? Krug is from Feylund, if you mean him. The Dumutef is the closest thing to a troll from Valhalla, but it still isn’t a troll.
My mistake. Regardless, he looks like a D&D troll with a distinctly D&D troll power set. Valhalla is counterintuitive, and it's a fair criticism that Valhalla doesn't make sense here.

I think making a nominee fit seamlessly in the canon, as Sir H. has now done, is a pretty obvious way for a designer to help her- or himself through this process.

C3V "Easily the best quality classic customs I have ever seen."
Designing Customs? Help With Wurdz
= =
Reply With Quote
  #5670  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:07 PM
Pumpkin_King's Avatar
Pumpkin_King Pumpkin_King is offline
A Happy Extradimensional Horror
 
Join Date: August 4, 2006
Location: VA-Culpeper
Posts: 7,923
Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death! Pumpkin_King is hot lava death!
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Covergent evolution is a thing.
Reply With Quote
  #5671  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:08 PM
Scytale's Avatar
Scytale Scytale is offline
Thanksgiving Custom Contest Champion
 
Join Date: August 25, 2006
Location: USA - MN - Rochester
Posts: 10,270
Images: 471
Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth Scytale is a man of the cloth
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
The bio you've given is the problem you've seen here, because of the association with Valhalla. Remove or change the bio, thus allowing for a more natural home world for this design, and you wouldn't have this problem with canon consistency.
Done. My original submission post has been updated without a Bio and association with Valhalla as his home world. That should take care of the reservations for this submission.
I was going to announce that the unit passed since we have a majority, but this changes things. (I also happen to support the change.) You still do need a homeworld, though. Toril or Eberron?
Reply With Quote
  #5672  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:14 PM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Playing with wedding bells (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,472
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 40
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by flameslayer93 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
Yes, you are exactly right, as I see it. People seem to like this nominee. I know I do. But one of his defining features is strongly associated with D&D-style trolls, and specifically not with Valhalla trolls. Of which there is an example.
Wait, there’s an example of Valhallan Trolls? Krug is from Feylund, if you mean him. The Dumutef is the closest thing to a troll from Valhalla, but it still isn’t a troll.
My mistake. Regardless, he looks like a D&D troll with a distinctly D&D troll power set. Valhalla is counterintuitive, and it's a fair criticism that Valhalla doesn't make sense here.

I think making a nominee fit seamlessly in the canon, as Sir H. has now done, is a pretty obvious way for a designer to help her- or himself through this process.
Oh, I have no issue with the remainder of the post, just want to make sure there wasn’t an unreleased troll or something. Leaving him “backstory blank” is fine by me. DnD trolls are all over the place as far as looks go.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #5673  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:15 PM
Sir Heroscape's Avatar
Sir Heroscape Sir Heroscape is offline
Sir Formerly Known As adoney
 
Join Date: September 14, 2015
Location: U.S - Idaho - Boise
Posts: 7,283
Images: 106
Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death!
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scytale View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper View Post
The bio you've given is the problem you've seen here, because of the association with Valhalla. Remove or change the bio, thus allowing for a more natural home world for this design, and you wouldn't have this problem with canon consistency.
Done. My original submission post has been updated without a Bio and association with Valhalla as his home world. That should take care of the reservations for this submission.
I was going to announce that the unit passed since we have a majority, but this changes things. (I also happen to support the change.) You still do need a homeworld, though. Toril or Eberron?
Toril seems appropriate.
Reply With Quote
  #5674  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:20 PM
Lazy Orang's Avatar
Lazy Orang Lazy Orang is offline
Hard as ice
 
Join Date: November 10, 2012
Location: British Isles
Posts: 15,923
Images: 6
Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death! Lazy Orang is hot lava death!
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King View Post
Covergent evolution is a thing.
Yes, and that is almost certainly the case in Heroscape lore (hence Mariedians), but I do agree that, since regeneration feels, to me, like the D&D trolls' 'hook', and there are plenty of different ways to make a troll, it would result in a more interesting game if, once a Valhallan troll is created, it has a distinct flavour of its own (as I said before, preferably mythological or folklore based).


My Family's Classic Customs
- The Stiff Corpse
=====================
Reply With Quote
  #5675  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:33 PM
Ixe's Avatar
Ixe Ixe is offline
 
Join Date: August 21, 2013
Location: USA - MD - Sparks
Posts: 1,864
Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Ixe is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

YAY for Toril Rujin.

Since we judge the unit as a whole we have to consider all the little details as well. It's best to do that early before testing if these things matter to you, and I happen to be a stickler for some of these details.
Reply With Quote
  #5676  
Old April 2nd, 2018, 12:41 PM
Sir Heroscape's Avatar
Sir Heroscape Sir Heroscape is offline
Sir Formerly Known As adoney
 
Join Date: September 14, 2015
Location: U.S - Idaho - Boise
Posts: 7,283
Images: 106
Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death! Sir Heroscape is hot lava death!
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ixe View Post
YAY for Toril Rujin.

Since we judge the unit as a whole we have to consider all the little details as well. It's best to do that early before testing if these things matter to you, and I happen to be a stickler for some of these details.
No worries. I agree. Glad y’all caught the inconsistency...something - as a designer - you can occasionally fail to see until it’s put on the “chopping block”
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Heroscapers > Custom HeroScape Creations > Custom Units & Army Cards > C3V and SoV Customs
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:21 PM.

Heroscape background footer

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.