The Book of Freddy Krueger

[SirGalahad]

Originally Posted by Arkham

NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
Freddy Krueger starts the game on this card instead of on the battlefield. While Freddy is on this card and not destroyed, you may still place and reveal Order Markers on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, or after Freddy destroys a figure, remove a Wound Marker from this card, and if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card.

1, 2, FREDDY'S COMING FOR YOU
If Freddy is on his card and not destroyed, instead of taking a turn with him, you may choose a figure on the battlefield that has not been moved or that has not attacked this round and roll one unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. A blank rolled counts as 2 skulls. Figures with the Mental Shield special power are not affected by this special power.

DREAM WARRIORS
After using 1, 2, Freddy’s Coming For You, if the chosen figure did not receive at least one wound, place Freddy on a space adjacent to the chosen figure, if possible.

Questions before playtesting. These may have been answered already so I apologize in advance if they have:

Does he have the potential to remove 1 Wound Marker or 2 during his turn?

(Freddy on card)

Reveal Order Marker
Remove Wound Marker from this card
Choose figure for 1,2 power.
Roll unblockable die, which results in destroying the figure
Remove 2nd Wound Marker from this card?

(Freddy on battlefield)

Reveal Order Marker
Remove Wound Marker from this card
Attack, which results in destroying the figure
Remove 2nd Wound Marker from this card?

If he can remove two Wound Markers while either on or off the battlefield in a given turn, then 6 Life is W-A-Y too high.

If he can only remove 1 Wound Marker per turn, then why would anyone wait to see if Freddy destroyed a figure before removing it (or possibly not getting to if Freddy doesn't destroy a figure)? The player would just heal the wound after the OM reveal, which makes the "or after destroying a figure" portion of the power unnecessary.

Please advise.

[Arkham]

It's meant to heal on an OM reveal only. Being placed onto his card when unengaged should trigger on either an OM reveal or destroying a figure. So however we need to word that, that's what the intent is and how I tested it.

If you need to combine power 3 with power 2, to make room for the 1st power to be split up appropriately, that should be fine. Or making it all into 4 powers that are simple and clearly defined, that works too.

[quozl]

Just make them separate sentences.

After revealing an Order Marker on this card, remove a Wound Marker from this card. After Freddy destroys a figure, if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card.

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by quozl

Just make them separate sentences.

After revealing an Order Marker on this card, remove a Wound Marker from this card. After Freddy destroys a figure, if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card.

You left out the bit where Freddy can get placed on the card after OM reveal.

So something like:

NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
Freddy Krueger starts the game on this card instead of on the battlefield. While Freddy is on this card and not destroyed, you may still place and reveal Order Markers on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, remove a Wound Marker from this card, and if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card. After Freddy destroys a figure, you may place Freddy on this card.

Doesn't exactly seem elegant like this, which is why I recommended splitting it up.

Something like:

NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
Freddy Krueger starts the game on this card instead of on the battlefield. While Freddy is on this card and not destroyed, you may still place and reveal Order Markers on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, remove a Wound Marker from this card, and if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card.

1, 2, FREDDY'S COMING FOR YOU
If Freddy is on his card and not destroyed, instead of taking a turn with him, you may choose a figure on the battlefield that has not been moved or that has not attacked this round and roll one unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. A blank rolled counts as 2 skulls. After using 1, 2, Freddy’s Coming For You, if the chosen figure did not receive at least one wound, place Freddy adjacent to the chosen figure, if possible. Figures with the Mental Shield special power are not affected by this special power.

SPRINGWOOD SLASHER
After Freddy destroys a figure, you may place Freddy on this card.

[quozl]

I had no idea he could be placed on the card after an OM reveal. And he can also be placed on the card after destroying a figure even if he's still engaged?

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by quozl

I had no idea he could be placed on the card after an OM reveal. And he can also be placed on the card after destroying a figure even if he's still engaged?

OM reveal = heal 1 wound and if unengaged, place on card

This represents his ability to get back into the dream world if uncontested, and gives the player a chance to get Freddy back onto his card if he can leave engagement, then start his next turn unengaged. So if the opponent keeps engaging him, he's screwed.

Destroys figure = returning to the dream world/placed on card.

This represents Freddy consuming that figure's soul, which makes him more powerful.

Now, do we want the restriction of unengagment with the destruction of a figure? It didn't come up in my tests. I'm not opposed to the restriction, but I feel once swarmed by enemies, it wouldn't be a bad option for him to try and kill one of them to escape.

[quozl]

The latest version seems clear. Fixing a bit of the wording:

NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
Freddy Krueger starts the game on this card instead of on the battlefield. While Freddy is on this card and not destroyed, you may still place and reveal Order Markers on this card. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, remove a Wound Marker from this card and, if Freddy is unengaged, you may place Freddy on this card.

1, 2, FREDDY'S COMING FOR YOU
If Freddy is on his card and not destroyed, instead of taking a turn with him, you may choose a figure on the battlefield without the Mental Shield special power that has not been moved or that has not attacked this round and roll one unblockable attack die against the chosen figure. A blank rolled counts as 2 skulls. After using this special power, if the chosen figure did not receive at least one wound, place Freddy adjacent to the chosen figure, if possible.

SPRINGWOOD SLASHER
After Freddy destroys a figure, you may place Freddy on this card.

[SirGalahad]

You need to specify whether or not he will take leaving engagement attacks in Springwood Slasher.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I'm just noticing that Freddy can pretty easily heal himself from near death by just managing to stay on his card for a round. Also, wow, 1,2 seems like a really great power! Granted he'll need to go on a hot streak, but a 66% chance to wound is pretty darn good!

[SirGalahad]

Help me remember--what was the ruling about when your last figure was not destroyed, but not on the battlefield.

You would lose, right?

[quozl]

Yes.

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

I'm just noticing that Freddy can pretty easily heal himself from near death by just managing to stay on his card for a round. Also, wow, 1,2 seems like a really great power! Granted he'll need to go on a hot streak, but a 66% chance to wound is pretty darn good!

Yep, went the decent healing route instead of the resurrection route. From experience and theoryscaping, the idea is that he'll be great when he's rolling hot, but it can take just 1 flub(33% chance), and he'll be toast if the opponent focuses their attention on taking him out while they have a chance. Only combo that's been quite effective for him has been Cosmo, and that's because Cosmo can pull someone back to the start zone on the removal of an OM. So it gives Freddy a great chance to escape back to his card, buying him some more time.

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

Help me remember--what was the ruling about when your last figure was not destroyed, but not on the battlefield.

You would lose, right?

Yes, and that's how I've played him in prior tests before this last set. So if he's your last one left, and he's on his card, you lose. It's part of the drawback of the design.

Updated the SP with the revamped wording and mention of leaving engagements.

Down to @SirGalahad and @Yodaking btw.