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Old November 9th, 2020, 11:46 PM
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Here's my attempt at Hooded Justice. Not sure if I've quite done him justice, still feels like something's missing or something. Would appreciate any suggestions.
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NAME = HOODED JUSTICE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 140?


UNDER THE HOOD
Hooded Justice is considered to have a secret identity. If Hooded Justice is adjacent to at least one Terrorist or Mastermind add 1 to his normal attack and subtract 1 from his defense. If he is engaged with a Mastermind, he cannot attack any other figure.

CRIMINAL INTIMIDATION
Criminal figures roll 1 fewer defense die against Hooded Justice's normal attack.

BRUTAL CONVICTIONS
When Hooded Justice destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, he may attack again. Hooded Justice may continue attacking with his normal attack until he does not destroy a figure.

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Old November 10th, 2020, 06:27 AM
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Aspects of Brutal Double Attack from Daredevil and Reckless Engagement from Huntress, which are the two I'd think of right away for him. It feels like a pretty solid write up to me. I like the Cyclops reference. Is the line "Beware of the Cyclops" or just "Beware the Cyclops"?

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Old November 10th, 2020, 06:43 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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Here's my attempt at Hooded Justice. Not sure if I've quite done him justice, still feels like something's missing or something. Would appreciate any suggestions.
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NAME = HOODED JUSTICE
SECRET IDENTITY = UNKNOWN

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 140?


“BEWARE OF THE CYCLOPS”
If Hooded Justice is engaged with at least one Terrorist or Mastermind add 1 to his normal attack and subtract 1 from his defense. If he is engaged with a Mastermind, he cannot attack any other figure.

CRIMINAL INTIMIDATION
Criminal figures roll 1 fewer defense die against Hooded Justice's normal attack.

BRUTAL CONVICTIONS
When Hooded Justice destroys an opponent's figure with his normal attack, he may attack again. Hooded Justice may continue attacking with his normal attack until he does not destroy a figure.
This was the Minuteman who was a borderline Klan member, right?
Solid draft - I've wondered if we'd ever delve into the 'historical' characters of the Watchmen universe. Honestly don't know much about him.


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Old November 10th, 2020, 07:42 AM
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More that he fought the Klan.

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Old November 10th, 2020, 07:59 AM
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More that he fought the Klan.
Really? I thought this guy was a borderline Nazi whose costume was literally a glorified depiction of a lynching. I know there was someone like that - Alan Moore really wanted to portray the 'superheroes' of Watchmen as flawed to horrible people of their time.


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Old November 10th, 2020, 08:11 AM
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More that he fought the Klan.
Really? I thought this guy was a borderline Nazi whose costume was literally a glorified depiction of a lynching. I know there was someone like that - Alan Moore really wanted to portray the 'superheroes' of Watchmen as flawed to horrible people of their time.
Very little is known about the character in the original source material. After that, it depends on which version you're going with. This card is definitely referencing the HBO Watchmen series as a source material, in which case he's certainly not a Nazi or a white nationalist or anything of the sort.

I don't want to post spoilers for that excellent show, though, so I won't go any further.

I've not seen anything from what I've read on other source material to imply that he was a member of the Klan there either, though.

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Old November 10th, 2020, 09:17 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Looked into it, and apparently in the book he is a Nazi sympathizer who is also hinted to be gay. That’s Moore for ya.
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Old November 10th, 2020, 09:19 AM
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Oh, he's definitely gay in any interpretation.

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Looked into it, and apparently in the book he is a Nazi sympathizer who is also hinted to be gay. That’s Moore for ya.
If only that were actually as uncommon as basic logic would dictate.


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Yeah, he's pretty much always implied to be gay. I actually really love the mystery of Hooded Justice in the book, where we're given all of these peeks behind the curtain that imply so much depth.

In the original comic he's just a brutal vigilante, who kicks off the whole "masked crime fighter thing," is implied to be in a relationship with Captain Metropolis, and made some pro-Nazi statements. Circus strongman Rolf Muller is listed as a possible identity.

In Before Watchmen (The Minutemen series, which is quite excellent, done by Darwyn Cooke) his identity is never revealed, but he's confirmed to be German and is explicitly NOT Rolf Muller, who is a character that shows up separately.

In the TV show, yeah, definitely not Rolf Muller. He does have explicit German sympathies though, which I thought was an interesting way to include that vein of the character. (I thought the show was kinda garbage but the Hooded Justice episode was definitely a highlight.)

One draft could easily hit all those notes though:

- Hates criminals and lawlessness
- Brutal, vicious methods; possible sadist
- Inspiration for "masks" movement
- Big

I actually had a basic draft for him, shown below. Obviously agreed on for Criminal Intimidation, similar tack for "multi-attack" stuff, but I think I like your version better overall. Maybe you could dovetail the "hunting down criminal conspiracy" power with an "inspiring others" power?

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Thanks everybody! Yeah, "Beware of the Cyclops" is what was said in the show and that power leans most heavily towards the TV version, but I think the rest are pretty representative of any iteration of the character. I was thinking of doing all the Minutemen (that was definitely the standout of the Before Watchmen series), but there aren't clix for Mothman, Silhouette, or Nite Owl I which is a bit sad.
I was also thinking of a First of the Masks type power, but wasn't sure how to incorporate it. Maybe a bonus or initiative boost for every Vigilante in your army or something could be rolled in there.
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Nice jobs on both these cards! Inspired me to do another deep dive.

Long read and spoilers ahead!

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