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Old October 12th, 2019, 04:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Vote for Public Testing!

yea though 115 seems too high, even with your caveats. I guess public testing can make that call, though.

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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Vote for Public Testing!

Like I said I could see him dropping to 95 or so (I like the odd cost here). I just want to see at least one test with him at 115 before I change it.
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Vote for Public Testing!

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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Vote for Public Testing!

I believe this passes then!
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Vassago

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Vassago(115), Hela(525), Draugr Thrall x2(190), Oracle(110) (940)
vs.
Cap(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Valkyrie(350) (940)
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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Vassago(95), Hela(525), Draugr Thrall x4(380) (1000)
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Fantastic Four(1000)
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Army Test 3
Map: Custom
Units:
Vassago(95), Hela(525) (620)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Tigra(170) (620)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Hard to say on cost, as Vassago was a minor factor in these games. Both the win and the two losses fell on the other figures' shoulders. I do like what Vassago offers though, and would consider drafting him with Hela quite often, if only for the higher movement capabilities, and the potential for the auto-wounds. It may not have played much of a role here, but it's a cool concept, and I think 95-115 feels about right, just not sure based on these tests, but leaning 95. I do like the 1000 point army you get with Hela + Vassago + 4 Thralls when at 95 points.

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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

Awesome thanks! Heís definitely not a game changer, but thatís what I wanted. Iím confident in dropping to 95 going forward.
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

Plotting out my games now. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want to see.

I was contemplatng throwing him in with Throg for a game, but a lot of his value is tied up with Hell Lords and he's nothing to write him about as an attacker, so probably won't bother with that.
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

Yeah not too interested in the companion synergies. Heís purely just a stat line for them. Just try to maximize the Steed damage.
Lady Death really loves a star lord / Cap boost, and Vassago fits in there too. But any of the Hell Lords are good to see. Daimon was quite fun. He doesnít like to be engaged unlike Lady Death or Hela, so you could possibly use Steed easier with him.
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

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Plotting out my games now. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want to see.

I was contemplatng throwing him in with Throg for a game, but a lot of his value is tied up with Hell Lords and he's nothing to write him about as an attacker, so probably won't bother with that.

If I understand it correctly, he (it's a male horse/unicorn?) still gets a 55% (10+) chance to deal an auto-wound vs. anyone he charges into. Not a bad option to charge him into the enemy and tie up some units with his 6 def. via a frog bonding turn.
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Re: The Book of Vassago ~ Public Playtesting

I think that's only if he carries someone, sadly. He's a Mount through and through.
Honestly, do we want to make his Class that? It's not been used in C3G, but it was official in Classic (Theracus and Brunak) and Companion synergies seem to be muddying the waters more than anything.


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