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Old December 29th, 2013, 01:48 PM
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I know this is a question that may seem odd coming from me at this point in the game, but what is "Green Stuff" and where do I find it? I have seen it referenced a million times and have yet to acquire any of it for myself.

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Old December 29th, 2013, 02:12 PM
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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

Game Workshop (Warhammer/WH40K/LOTR) sells it at their shops or online. In the package it looks kind of like a piece of gum that is half blue and half light green. You cut a thin stripe off the end and then fold the blue & green halves together, continuing to mash it up until it becomes a dark green blob. I believe another company sells some kind of similar modeling material but it is not green. Hence the name 'green stuff' for that specific product. You can then mold the green stuff into shapes as needed (use water on your fingers & tools to keep the stuff mailable) for the next few hours before it starts to set. Once left overnight, that is the shape it will remain in.
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Well, I am definitely going to have to check into that then. I have a number of pieces that come to mind that could make use of such a thing.

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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

Yeah, it has come in pretty handy the more I use it and get familiar with using the stuff. I bough my package several years ago and thought it was a bit pricey at the time but it has been worth it. I still have a bunch left too, you don't need very much to get quite a bit of detailing work done. Or you can use a large amount to create a cape or something similar from scratch. I'd just recommend doing a few small things the first few times before taking on something big.
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While traveling I have not had much extra time to spend on this but I have been thinking about it some. I've decided that I am going to shift the focus of my G.I. Joe Project to be on the same power level with the C3G stuff rather then Classic scape. Just a lot more fun thematic battles they can get into. C3G is more hero oriented too, which is what I want for my team of heroes. This has caused me to rethink some of the guidelines I was going to use concerning common squads and what the baseline stats represent. So before I dive into retooling those designs I've already posted, I'm going to list the C3G units I'll be using as a measuring stick for the Cobra & G.I. Joe heroes.

Here are a bunch of non-powered units C3G has already done that I'm thinking about looking at for guidance, 250 points or less. If their are any that you think should be removed because they do have powers or gadgets that would be out of place in the G.I. Joe world let me know and I'll remove them.

(15 points) The Book of Bodyguard DC
(25 points) The Book of Bob, Agent of HYDRA MARVEL
(25 points) The Book of S.H.I.E.L.D. Spotter MARVEL
(25 points) The Book of S.W.A.T. Assaulter MARVEL
(35 points) The Book of S.W.A.T. Explosives Expert MARVEL
(35 points) The Book of S.W.A.T. Rifleman MARVEL
(40 points) The Book of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sniper MARVEL
(45 points) The Book of Civilians MARVEL
(50 points) The Book of Spoiler (Stephanie Brown) DC
(55 points) The Book of Bad Cops DC
(60 points) The Book of Alfred Pennyworth DC
(60 points) The Book of Arkham Inmates DC
(60 points) The Book of Bucky (James Barnes) MARVEL
(65 points) The Book of 5th Precinct Beat Cops DC
(65 points) The Book of Crime Alley Crooks DC
(70 points) The Book of A.I.M. Agents MARVEL
(70 points) The Book of Bruce Banner MARVEL
(70 points) The Book of Code: Blue Cop MARVEL
(70 points) The Book of Iron Man (Mark I) (Tony Stark) MARVEL
(70 points) The Book of Reverend Stryker (William Stryker) MARVEL
(70 points) The Book of Robin (Jason Todd) DC
(75 points) The Book of Street Thugs DC
(80 points) The Book of HYDRA Agents MARVEL
(80 points) The Book of Robin (Damian Wayne) DC
(80 points) The Book of Speedy (Mia Dearden) DC
(85 points) The Book of Hand Ninja MARVEL
(85 points) The Book of J. Jonah Jameson MARVEL
(90 points) The Book of Captain Boomerang (George "Digger" Harkness) DC
(90 points) The Book of Commissioner Gordon (James Gordon) DC
(90 points) The Book of Dum Dum Dugan (Timothy Dugan) MARVEL
(90 points) The Book of Sharon Carter MARVEL
(90 points) The Book of Speedy (Roy Harper) DC
(90 points) The Book of Ventriloquist (Arnold Wesker) DC

(100 points) The Book of Lex Luthor DC
(100 points) The Book of Mister Zsasz (Victor Zsasz) DC

(100 points) The Book of Robin (Dick Grayson) DC

(100 points) The Book of Silk Spectre (Laurie Juspeczyk) DC
(100 points) The Book of Ubu DC

(110 points) The Book of Anarky (Lonnie Machin) DC
(110 points) The Book of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents MARVEL
(110 points) The Book of Talia al Ghul DC

(120 points) The Book of Firefly (Garfield Lynns) DC
(120 points) The Book of Intergang Agents DC

(120 points) The Book of Joker Goons DC

(120 points) The Book of Penguin (Oswald Cobblepot) DC
(120 points) The Book of Robin (Tim Drake) DC

(130 points) The Book of Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) DC
(130 points) The Book of Batroc The Leaper (Georges Batroc) MARVEL
(130 points) The Book of Boomerang (Frederick Myers) MARVEL
(130 points) The Book of Green Arrow (Connor Hawke) DC

(130 points) The Book of Harley Quinn (Harleen Quinzel) DC

(130 points) The Book of Hired Guns (130 points) MARVEL
(130 points) The Book of Lex Corp Security DC
(130 points) The Book of Mockingbird (Barbara Morse) MARVEL

(130 points) The Book of Nite Owl (Daniel Dreiberg) DC
(130 points) The Book of Nomad (Jack Monroe) MARVEL
(130 points) The Book of Prowler (Hobie Brown) MARVEL

(130 points) The Book of Two-Face (Harvey Dent) DC
(135 points) The Book of Black Cat (Felicia Hardy) MARVEL

(140 points) The Book of Falcon (Sam Wilson) MARVEL
(140 points) The Book of Joker (???) (II) DC

(140 points) The Book of Lieutenant Stone (Marcus Stone) MARVEL
(140 points) The Book of Madame HYDRA (Ophelia Sarkissian) MARVEL

(140 points) The Book of Rorschach (Walter Kovacs) DC
(140 points) The Book of Scarecrow (Jonathan Crane) DC

(140 points) The Book of The Riddler (Edward Nashton) DC
(145 points) The Book of Catwoman (Selina Kyle) DC
(150 points) The Book of Batman (Terry McGinnis) DC

(150 points) The Book of Crimson Dynamo (Gennady Gavrilov) MARVEL
(150 points) The Book of Deadshot (Floyd Lawton) DC
(150 points) The Book of Elite League Assassins DC

(150 points) The Book of Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) DC
(150 points) The Book of Hawkeye (Clint Barton) MARVEL
(150 points) The Book of Iron Man (Mark II) (Tony Stark) MARVEL

(150 points) The Book of Red Arrow (Roy Harper) DC
(150 points) The Book of Rocket Red DC
(160 points) The Book of Comedian (Edward Blake) DC
(160 points) The Book of Hawkeye (Clint Barton) (II) MARVEL
(160 points) The Book of Merlyn DC

(160 points) The Book of Red Robin (Tim Drake) DC
(160 points) The Book of Scientist Supreme (Monica Rappiccini) MARVEL
(160 points) The Book of Swordsman (Jacques Duquesne) MARVEL
(170 points) The Book of Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley) DC
(170 points) The Book of Baron Zemo (Heinrich Zemo) MARVEL

(170 points) The Book of Batman (Dick Grayson) DC
(170 points) The Book of Black Widow (Natalia Romanova) MARVEL

(170 points) The Book of Ghost MARVEL
(170 points) The Book of Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) DC

(170 points) The Book of Scourge of the Underworld MARVEL
(175 points) The Book of Bullseye (Lester ???) MARVEL

(175 points) The Book of Lady Shiva (Sandra Woosan) DC

(180 points) The Book of Mad Thinker MARVEL

(180 points) The Book of Punisher (Frank Castle) MARVEL

(180 points) The Book of Red Hood (Jason Todd) DC
(190 points) The Book of Joker (???) DC

(200 points) The Book of Baron Zemo (Helmut Zemo) MARVEL
(200 points) The Book of Batman (Bruce Wayne) DC
(200 points) The Book of Black Panther (T'Challa) MARVEL

(200 points) The Book of Kraven (Sergei Kravinoff) MARVEL

(200 points) The Book of Nightwing (Dick Grayson) DC
(200 points) The Book of Ozymandias (Adrian Veidt) DC
(210 points) The Book of Baron Von Strucker (Wolfgang Von Strucker) MARVEL
(210 points) The Book of Buffy Summers DARK HORSE

(220 points) The Book of Batman (Jean-Paul Valley) DC
(220 points) The Book of Hush (Thomas Elliott) DC
(220 points) The Book of Iron Man (Mark III) (Tony Stark) MARVEL
(220 points) The Book of Kingpin MARVEL
(220 points) The Book of Nick Fury MARVEL

(230 points) The Book of Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane) MARVEL
(230 points) The Book of Karate Kid (Val Armorr) DC
(230 points) The Book of Shang-Chi MARVEL

(240 points) The Book of Judge Dredd (Joe Dredd) 2000 AD

(240 points) The Book of Titanium Man (Boris Bullski) MARVEL
(240 points) The Book of Winter Soldier (James Barnes) MARVEL

(250 points) The Book of Batman (Bruce Wayne) (II) DC

(250 points) The Book of Iron Man (Mark IV) (Tony Stark) MARVEL


Now looking at this list, where do you see Destro, Cobra Commander, Baroness, and a 4 figure Cobra Troopers common squad fitting in? How about Storm Shadow & Snake Eyes? I have some thoughts on where they might fall but I'd love to get some other opinions before I begin designing again.

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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

Destro and CC, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow around 200. Baroness 100-140
Cobra squad 70-100

Nice list. Dredd will be a force in GI Joe-scape.

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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

Here are my thoughts on many of the projected Joes and Cobras.

Snake Eyes 180-220
Road Block 100-120
Gung Ho 100-120
Beach Head 110-130
Recondo 90-110
Storm Shadow w/bow 180-220
Dusty 90-110
Snowjob - Mini Idea 90-110
Wet-Suit 90-110
Wild Bill? 80-90
Quickkick - Mini Idea 150-170
Sgt. Slaughter 160-180
Ripcord 90-110
Jinx 150-170
Scarlet - Mini Idea 120-140

Cobra Forces:

Cobra Commander w/hood (mini) 130-150
Destro (mini) 140-160
The Baroness (mini) 130-140
Cobra Troopers (minis) 60-90
Cobra Commander in Battle Suit 150-170
Serpentor 160-180
Major Blood 110-130
Tomax & Xamot 90-110 Each or 160-180 for both
Storm Shadow w/two swords 180-220
Firefly 130-150
Zartan 140-160
Buzzer 90-110
Ripper 90-110
Torch 90-110
Monkeywrench 90-110
Zanzibar 120-140
Dr. Mindbender - Mini Idea 130-150
B.A.T.S. - Mini Idea 70-90 each

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BTW, if you haven't seen the new Universo, he could be a dead ringer for Dr. Mindbender, right down to the monicle!
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Great list Fret! Thanks for all that input.

Spidey, that figure is perfect. I had not seen it so thanks for the heads up.
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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

I look at Black Widow (170) and think she would handle herself quite well in the world of G.I. Joe. I would put her significantly ahead of the Baroness so maybe 140 or so for her. I see Destro as being able to deal with Black Widow on a more even level, so maybe 170-180 range for him. Cobra Commander (hood) seems like a younger Baron Von Strucker type of leader, perhaps 180-190. For the base Cobra Troopers, I'm thinking of making them a 4 figure squad that matches or slightly outpaces Hydra (80 points) so 80-90 points. Later Crimson Guards or Vipers can then be 3 figure squads on the SHIELD level (110 points). Snake Eyes & Stormshadow would not be outclassed by many hand to hand fighters, so 200+ points.
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Re: The G.I. Joe Project

I'd argue that Red Skull is more similar to Cobra Commander. Major Bluud is similar to Baron Strucker. Destro is little bit Forge, a little bit Dr. Doom. Baroness is practically the same person as Madame Hydra aka Viper.

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