The Book of Billy Batson

[Good Pig]

I was thinking like 40-50 with the current write-up.

[IAmBatman]

It's really tough to say. Because he could very easily die in one hit and won't do damage except when he transforms. I'd have trouble believing he was worth more than 50 either.

[Griffin]

Let's try to also remember as we start to playtest that the public is VERY interested in creating Civilian synergies, and that could inflate some cost.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Let's try to also remember as we start to playtest that the public is VERY interested in creating Civilian synergies, and that could inflate some cost.

But won't that cost be built into the cost of whatever is providing that synergy? I mean for Billy we will be costing in his synergy with CM .

[IAmBatman]

Also, we already have common civilians not costed for any future civilian synergies, so that's even more reason to put the burden of those costs on the units providing the synergies.

[tcglkn]

I always thought the cost of the synergy should fall on the giver, which is why I didn't test Black Widow with Nick Fury yet.

[Griffin]

Do you guys think that Wolverine's, Nightcrawler's, Toad's, Magneto's, etc, cost would have come down some if they were not Mutants? I believe that EVERYTHING on a card should be factored into its cost, even if it is only a little bit of inflation or deflation.

[IAmBatman]

I think Wolverine is worth 280 points with or without Prof X, personally ... and I'm not sure if the others you mentioned are worth their cost consistently even with Prof X ...

[tcglkn]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Do you guys think that Wolverine's, Nightcrawler's, Toad's, Magneto's, etc, cost would have come down some if they were not Mutants? I believe that EVERYTHING on a card should be factored into its cost, even if it is only a little bit of inflation or deflation.

Yes, but we can't plan for synergy that we aren't even sure what we are going to do for...

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Yes, but we can't plan for synergy that we aren't even sure what we are going to do for...

Not true. If a unit tests out and feel like it costs between 140-145 and we know that it will have synergy coming in the near future, I would lean to 145 to be on the safe side. That was all I was saying. I would rather avoid A+ units when we can help it, and some units could become A+ because of synergies and a low cost.

[tcglkn]

Fair enough.

[IAmBatman]

I'd be surprised if this guy is an A+. But the proof is in the testing, as always.