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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:08 PM
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Yea once the first "and" is removed.
But thatís really inconsistent with how itís always been done.
I'd rather break precedent (and I'm not sure what precedent you're referring to) and be grammatically correct than be consistently wrong.


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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

THROUGH THE LAND OF THE NIGHTSHADES
Instead of moving and attacking with Nightshade, if Nightshade is unengaged, you may choose up to 2 unengaged friendly figures adjacent to Nightshade. Place Nightshade on any unoccupied space on the battlefield. You may then place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Nightshade but not adjacent to any enemy figures. Figures, other than Nightshade, moved by this special power:

* if they were moved more than 5 spaces, they cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this player turn; and
* if they were moved more than 10 spaces, they cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this round.

Nightshade can only use this special power once per round.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:19 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

A little more trimming.


THROUGH THE LAND OF THE NIGHTSHADES
Instead of moving and attacking with Nightshade, if Nightshade is unengaged, you may choose up to 2 unengaged friendly figures adjacent to Nightshade. Place Nightshade on any unoccupied space on the battlefield. You may then place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Nightshade, not adjacent to any enemy figures. Figures, other than Nightshade, moved by this special power:

* cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this player turn, if they were moved more than 5 spaces; and
* cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this round, if they were moved more than 10 spaces.
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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:22 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

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The first "and" stays. The second "and" needs to be an "or".
I don't think so. If I move a figure 10 spaces and I move a figure 11 spaces, am I doing one or the other? No, I am doing both.

EDIT: changed the numbers to make sense.

You don't move one figure both 10 and 11 spaces though. You read through the bullet points once for each figure moved, not once for all figures moved.
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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:23 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

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Yea once the first "and" is removed.
But thatís really inconsistent with how itís always been done.
I'd rather break precedent (and I'm not sure what precedent you're referring to) and be grammatically correct than be consistently wrong.
But I think the Ďgrammatically correctí option;
A) is inconsistent with how things have been done in both C3G and Classic. Maybe Iím wrong, but every card Iíve seen has used the 2 ĎAndsí style wording.
B) actually harms clarity instead of adding to it. The 2 ĎAnds/Orsí wording helps make it clear the bullet points are separate options.

I donít like the idea of sacrificing consistency and clarity for this ultimately meaningless concept of grammatical correctness. Iíve not seen any proof that grammatical correctness actually does any good here, other than providing a vague sense of satisfaction that we did things the ďproperĒ way.

Maybe itís just a philosophical difference, but it just seems like blind adherence to a set of rules without actually considering whatís best for the situation.
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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:24 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

You could go even simpler with:
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THROUGH THE LAND OF THE NIGHTSHADES
Instead of moving and attacking with Nightshade, if Nightshade is unengaged, you may choose up to 2 unengaged friendly figures adjacent to Nightshade. Place Nightshade on any unoccupied space on the battlefield. You may then place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Nightshade, not adjacent to any enemy figures. Figures other than Nightshade moved by this special power cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this:
• player turn, if they were moved more than 5 spaces; and
• round, if they were moved more than 10 spaces.
Nightshade can only use this special power once per round.
When dealing with bullet points, any text that remains the same in the first part of each option, can just be stated once before the decision point.
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Old September 7th, 2019, 12:25 PM
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Old September 7th, 2019, 02:44 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

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The first "and" stays. The second "and" needs to be an "or".
I don't think so. If I move a figure 10 spaces and I move a figure 11 spaces, am I doing one or the other? No, I am doing both.

EDIT: changed the numbers to make sense.
Except you are checking for each figure moved, not once for all figures moved, thus the or makes sense.
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A little more trimming.


THROUGH THE LAND OF THE NIGHTSHADES
Instead of moving and attacking with Nightshade, if Nightshade is unengaged, you may choose up to 2 unengaged friendly figures adjacent to Nightshade. Place Nightshade on any unoccupied space on the battlefield. You may then place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Nightshade, not adjacent to any enemy figures. Figures, other than Nightshade, moved by this special power:

* cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this player turn, if they were moved more than 5 spaces; andor
* cannot take a turn or attack during the rest of this round, if they were moved more than 10 spaces.
This looks good, except for changing that last "and" to an "or".
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Old September 7th, 2019, 03:03 PM
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

I'm fine with Arkham's update with it being 'or' instead of 'and' between the two bullet points.
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I'm fine with Arkham's update with it being 'or' instead of 'and' between the two bullet points.
Same here. Seems pretty clear to me.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Nightshade (Suicide Squad) (deck on vote)

Re-YEA

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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