The Book of Headpool

[Yodaking]

Originally Posted by johnny139

I think the X Marker should probably be reserved for more general Deadpool shenanigans as well, if we're expecting them to co-exist in the longterm.

Good point on the X already being tied to Healing Factor X on Deadpool.

[Yodaking]

Since the different Deadpool Corps members have different names, what if we just didn't give them secret identities? Just plain Kidpool, Lady Deadpool, Headpool, & Dogpool.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Bats means that we'd have to reword Wisecrack if we're reusing it, so that multiple instances of the power can exist together more cleanly.

Technically it's not an issue in the write-up as it stands (since Headpool and Deadpool can't be drafted together by virtue of both being Wade Wilsons), but we are gonna have to arrive at some sort of solution for Deadpool Corps armies, so they're eventually gonna be co-draftable.

Still very much like the idea of the 'alternate reality' symbol. (Discussion prompted by Spider-Verse stuff starting here and continuing through the end of that thread) Way tidier than having Lady Deadpool break uniqueness on all of them and always requiring her for any of the Deadpool Corps members to team up.

That's what I did when I designed a personal Armoured Spider-Man custom based on the finale of the 90s cartoon, so I'm in favour. Might even be able to convince my brother to hook out the graphic we put together (I was able to make cards then... haven't been able to for years now).

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Since the different Deadpool Corps members have different names, what if we just didn't give them secret identities? Just plain Kidpool, Lady Deadpool, Headpool, & Dogpool.

I prefer this over the symbol approach.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Karat

Well yes, but is it really stacking? Sure it's potentially problematic but stacking is adding one or more. You're not really adding something here, it's more along the lines of a backup generator. It doesn't actually add any power it just helps you keep from losing power, at least from my perspective.

Though I'm not really sure how to prevent such an interaction, or if it really even needs preventing. I mean just increasing the roll already makes it less likely to occur.

I guess that's an interpretation issue. When the mechanic makes it so you must attack figure X instead of any other figure on the battlefield and then another mechanic makes it so you must attack figure Y instead of any other figure on the battlefield, the question becomes:

1. Does the second mechanic nullify the first?
2. Or do they both exist simultaneously (thus stacking)?

Nothing in the power text explicitly establishes #1, IMO, but with #2 it leads into a situation where you have no legal targets to attack (therein the problem).

Now if you feel #1 is the correct interpretation, maybe it's as simple as an FAQ. I don't feel that's as clear as it could or should be from the current verbiage, however.

[Karat]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I guess that's an interpretation issue. When the mechanic makes it so you must attack figure X instead of any other figure on the battlefield and then another mechanic makes it so you must attack figure Y instead of any other figure on the battlefield, the question becomes:

1. Does the second mechanic nullify the first?
2. Or do they both exist simultaneously (thus stacking)?

Nothing in the power text explicitly establishes #1, IMO, but with #2 it leads into a situation where you have no legal targets to attack (therein the problem).

Now if you feel #1 is the correct interpretation, maybe it's as simple as an FAQ. I don't feel that's as clear as it could or should be from the current verbiage, however.

I guess I just thought the old classic ruling of when 2 powers activate at the same phase the players do a D-20 roll off to determine which activates first applied here
and I suppose I assumed that if it activated, that the successive activation was/is negated.

Not sure what/how to effectively clarify it here unless we did want just a FAQ for it though.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

That reasoning was what I was leaning toward too. Negating should also negate another Wisecrack.

[Ronin]

WISECRACK 16
Before an opponent’s figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Headpool rolls attack dice against another figure, if that opponent’s figure could instead attack Headpool, you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 16 or higher, that opponent’s figure must attack Headpool instead of any other figure this turn while Headpool is still on the battlefield.

Fwiw, I would argue that once one instance of Wisecrack kicks in, the bolded clause shuts down the possibility of rolling for the other. It's not as optimally clear as it could be, but I think if you must attack Deadpool, then you cannot attack Headpool. So if Deadpool's already successfully cracked wise, Headpool doesn't get to roll.

I'd be cool with updating the wording for clarity, though.

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Since the different Deadpool Corps members have different names, what if we just didn't give them secret identities? Just plain Kidpool, Lady Deadpool, Headpool, & Dogpool.

I think skipping the secret identities would also be a departire from C3G aesthetic. Plus it takes away their synergy tag - having that in there and being able to call out Wade Wilsons and Wanda Wilsons would make synergies easier.

[Karat]

I'm leaving the whole Deadpool Corps thing for later. I also am not a fan of losing the Secret Identities here or on any of the cards.

Here is a take on Seek and Annoy incorrporting Yoda's suggestion. I'm liking where this design is headed.

SEEK AND ANNOY
After an opponent reveals an Order Marker on a card they control, you may immediately move headpool. Headpool must end this movement closer to one or more opponent's figures than he was before moving with Seek and Annoy. When moving with Seek and Annoy, Headpool will take all leaving engagement attacks.

[IAmBatman]

If all three of you were already reading it that way, I say just FAQ it.

[Karat]

Ok, so an attempt at a FAQ here.

When an opponent's figure attacks a figure within 3 spaces of both Deadpool and Headpool, does Wisecrack activate once or twice?
Once. As with all special powers that activate during the same phase, you determine which power activates first with a D-20 roll off. Thus, if Deadpool's Wisecrack activates first and is successful, then Headpool's Wisecrack cannot be activated as the attacking figure must attack Deadpool, if possible.

I'll get an updated draft up after we settle the FAQ.

[L0B5T3R]

Originally Posted by Karat

I'm liking where this design is headed.