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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

I mean, that's a fair take. I just don't really buy Scarlet Witch as being rebellious by nature - she's more of a passive character, sort of pushed around by the world. It doesn't read to me as a choice that makes sense on its own. Devoid of the mechanical ties, I would never describe her as a rebel.

It's like the Jessica Jones as a Fighter vs. an Investigator type thing. It's justifiable, you can do it, it's just no the decision I'd make.
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I’m building a synergy here man.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

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I mean, that's a fair take. I just don't really buy Scarlet Witch as being rebellious by nature - she's more of a passive character, sort of pushed around by the world. It doesn't read to me as a choice that makes sense on its own. Devoid of the mechanical ties, I would never describe her as a rebel.

It's like the Jessica Jones as a Fighter vs. an Investigator type thing. It's justifiable, you can do it, it's just no the decision I'd make.
Ha and I'm the exact opposite in both cases.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

Hmm Johnny has a good point. Definitely donít want to sacrifice theme just for a synergy tie. I never read AoA, does she run with Sabretooth and Magneto in that story?

Iím fine sacrificing exact costumes, especially with bad art choices or minis, but not the core of the character.
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Hmm Johnny has a good point. Definitely donít want to sacrifice theme just for a synergy tie. I never read AoA, does she run with Sabretooth and Magneto in that story?

Iím fine sacrificing exact costumes, especially with bad art choices or minis, but not the core of the character.
ď In the alternate reality called Age of Apocalypse, Wanda's life was short-lived. She grew up with her father, Magneto, and her brother, Quicksilver, at Wundagore Mountain, the location for Magneto's training school. The two Lehnsherr siblings were taken care of by Bova, a humanoid cow when their father was otherwise busy. When Magneto and his X-Men left to stop Apocalypse's first attack on his way to domination, Scarlet Witch and Rogue were left behind to watch the other, younger, students. Unfortunately, Apocalypse had planned for this and sent his son, Nemesis, to attack the remaining students. In the battle, Wanda was killed, but with her dying breath, made Rogue promise to watch over her father.

Wanda had the same hex-casting powers as in the regular Marvel 616 universe.Ē
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

Looks fun. Hex Phenomena seems pretty powerful when paired with the right figures, but it requires her to keep up and you're paying for it as Scarlet Witch isn't cheap. Really dig Twisted Reality.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

So doesn’t seem like she should really be in the faction? Especially if it’s not a thematic class for her as a character? I don’t read much Scarlet Witch though, so I’d defer to those who have.

I dig the design itself though.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

Re-rolling SA is okay then?


I wonder if it would be a good strategy to just never use the Hex markers and use them as a kind of shield. Who wants to take her out if they are going to get hit with 6 unblockables?
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

Don’t believe re-rolling SA is included there. The wording is taken from Brainiac’s 12th Level Intellect power.

You could save the markers, but you’re better off changing dice rolls IMO. But there’s nothing wrong with giving that a try.

I’m still quite adamant on her being a Rebel. I don’t think it’s a total stretch. It may not be her most defining class, but we already have a Sorceress version, so there’s no reason this can’t go a different direction. Looking through her history a bit, here’s a few examples:

Rebelling against her father and the Brotherhood:
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Scarlet Witch disagreed with Magneto's plan to kill the X-Men. During his attempt to kill every X-Man except the captive Angel, Scarlet Witch used one of her hexes to short-circuit Magneto's control panel. She injured one of Magneto's hands in the process. When an angry Magneto attempted to "teach her a lesson," Wanda hid behind her protective brother Quicksilver. Shortly after, Wanda was nearly injured by debris created by one of Cyclops' blasts.[19]
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During a battle with the X-Men, Quicksilver was easily captured by Marvel Girl. Wanda was worried about her brother's safety, and asked Magneto to save him. She instead learned that Magneto was about to fire a deadly weapon against the entire group of X-Men, willing to sacrifice Quicksilver's life to gain victory. When Wanda tried to stop him, Magneto threatened to kill her for defying his decisions. Namor intervened on Wanda's behalf, and destroyed the equipment which Magneto was about to use.[20]
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When Magneto, Mastermind, and Toad fled from one of the X-Men's attacks, Wanda chose to stay behind. She confronted the X-Men alone, and demanded for them to release the captive Quicksilver. Cyclops commented that she was in no position to impose demands. Namor was actually willing to fight the X-Men to help her out.[20]
Rebelling against the Avengers:
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An unintentional remark by teammate Wasp about Wanda's lost children apparently drove her over the edge. She suffered a nervous breakdown and lashed out with her new power, subjecting the Avengers to a savage assault and apparently killing Agatha Harkness and some of her teammates. Others were injured or affected by various odd outbursts and incidents.
Rebelling against the X-Men and Mutant kind:
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Wanda revived her brother, telling Magneto that Quicksilver had only wanted him to be happy and that Magneto had ruined them, choosing the mutants over his own children. She further denounced Xavier and in three words "No more mutants" Wanda changed the world back to its original form but added the mass de-powering of 90% of the entire mutant population, thus being responsible for many deaths.[39]
Rebelling against the High Evolutionary and the established order in that society, helping the resistance:
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Wanda and Pietro returned to the Wundagore Mountains to find out their true parentage, and they were brought to the reformed Counter-Earth, which the High Evolutionary used to test and try to create his perfect New Men.[70] The twins encountered the Low Evolutionary, the leader of a resistance formed by the High Evolutionary's rejects.[13] ...

After escaping from the Evolutionary's experimentations, Pietro and Wanda located the Avengers Unity Division, who had travelled to the Counter-Earth looking for the twins, and helped the inhabitants of Lowtown, a refuge for the High Evolutionary's rejects, from their creator's assault.[16]
Also, she wasn’t in the comics Civil War, but had she been, who’s side do you think she’d have been on? The anti-reg just as she is in the MCU. She’s pro Cap, anti Tony, and ultimately has proven several times anti-authority/dictatorship. She also rebelled against the Hydra take over when Cap was being controlled. She doesn’t just blindly follow anybody, she’s proven to be very much a free thinker and sticks up for what she feels is right, regardless of her current allegiances.

You add up all this and the fact that she’s with Magneto’s X-Men in AoA, rebelling against Apocalypse, I feel it’s within reason she could be classified as a Rebel. May not be her most defining class, but that’s usually the case when we’re using these classes as a purposeful synergy tag.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

Perfect, you convinced me
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (II) (Breathing)

I would say this is a difference between what you do (Class, Rebel) and how you act (Personality, Rebellious). Would Rebellious as a personality suit her? No. She doesn’t have that attitude. Does Rebel as a Class reflect her actual behavior? Yes. She takes those actions.

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Nice way of putting that.
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