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Old September 30th, 2019, 11:54 AM
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Should she still get her boost if her Beloved comes back? Even aside from being able to resurrect them with Live to Love Again, it allows for weird combos... maybe Jason Voorhees just needs a little love?
We could limit the placement of 3 markers to once per game.

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Old September 30th, 2019, 12:01 PM
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

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Should she still get her boost if her Beloved comes back? Even aside from being able to resurrect them with Live to Love Again, it allows for weird combos... maybe Jason Voorhees just needs a little love?
We could limit the placement of 3 markers to once per game.
It already is. What I'm saying is that if, say, Jason's her beloved and he dies, but then comes back, should she still be attacking twice?


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Old September 30th, 2019, 12:12 PM
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Ah, missed that! Good point.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

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Once per game, when this Star Sapphire’s Beloved is destroyed by an opponent’s figure, you may place 3 violet Battery Markers and any unrevealed Order Markers in your army onto this card. For the remainder of the game if Star Sapphire's Beloved is not on the battlefield, when this Star Sapphire attacks, she may attack one additional time.
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

I'm not sure that's necessary. Would you not feel more motivated to kick ass and feel overwhelmed with love if someone killed your beloved, regardless if you were able to bring them back?
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Old September 30th, 2019, 06:42 PM
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The problem is that encourages play with figures that can come back easily.

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I'm not sure that's necessary. Would you not feel more motivated to kick ass and feel overwhelmed with love if someone killed your beloved, regardless if you were able to bring them back?
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

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The problem is that encourages play with figures that can come back easily.
That's fair, and I'm ok with putting in the exclusion for this reason. Is there a way to maybe word it so that if brought back by her, it doesn't disable it?
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

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I think she might struggle to get her points if her Beloved isn't destroyed first, but I guess that's where the strategy comes from: the choice of a good Beloved.

Some nice hidden Green Lantern synergy in there, as you could keep a GL adjacent to her and they could use their Power Shield to keep her alive if the enemy wanted to attack her first.
But if a GL burns all of his markers and is brought back to life, he doesn't come back with any markers, right? Since he only "starts the game" with them? So GL's wouldn't be a great pair for her.
You don't have to bring her Beloved back. I wouldn't be trying to bring a burnt out GL back. I might choose someone else in the same army to bring back instead, though, depending on how things go down.

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Should she still get her boost if her Beloved comes back? Even aside from being able to resurrect them with Live to Love Again, it allows for weird combos... maybe Jason Voorhees just needs a little love?
Thematically I'm just fine with it. She's still pissed you killed her loved one, even if they come back.

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Honestly He-Man sounds like a fantastic pair, with his heroic duty. Or Superman, obviously, but his defense to so tough to crack your opponent might still try to ignore him.
Heroic Duty pairings would be good too. I definitely don't think she's a bad pairing with GLs at all, though. They might just not be her best resurrection target, which is entirely separate from being her Beloved or not.

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That’s a good idea. Guy + Miri + some uncommons may be a decent army.
Agreed. Good call on that combo, LO. Anyone who can wound themselves for a big payoff is a good Beloved.

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The problem is that encourages play with figures that can come back easily.
I'm not sure that's true beyond figures that can easily come back being valuable in and of themselves. I think it much more encourages play with figures that will fall easily or that make themselves big enough targets to fall.

If you make her Beloved someone who comes back easily, you're doubly discouraging the opposing player from going after her Beloved, because it's going to power her up AND that figure's probably not going to stay dead. So I'm not sure that's a solid strategic move at all.

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Old September 30th, 2019, 07:04 PM
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If you make her Beloved someone who comes back easily, you're doubly discouraging the opposing player from going after her Beloved, because it's going to power her up AND that figure's probably not going to stay dead. So I'm not sure that's a solid strategic move at all.
You might be forgetting about taking out the Beloved yourself in order to get the bonus.

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If you make her Beloved someone who comes back easily, you're doubly discouraging the opposing player from going after her Beloved, because it's going to power her up AND that figure's probably not going to stay dead. So I'm not sure that's a solid strategic move at all.
You might be forgetting about taking out the Beloved yourself in order to get the bonus.
Has to be killed by an enemy figure.
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Miri Riam) (Breathing)

I think the double attacking, even if they come back on their own is fine.

I'd also consider Ruthless Counterstrikers for her beloved as being able to come back takes away a lot of the risk of using such powes.
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