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Old November 6th, 2010, 09:36 AM
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C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

The Book of Catman




The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Origin set. Its model number and name is 40,41,42/Cat-Man.


(INSERT MINIATURE PICTURE)



NAME = Catman
SECRET IDENTITY = Thomas Blake

SPECIES = Human
UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero
CLASS = Hunter
PERSONALITY = Cunning
SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5

LIFE = 9
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3
POINTS = 150

HUNTER'S PROWL
At the start of the game, before rolling for initiative, choose an opponent's Unique Hero. For the rest of the game, at the end of each of the chosen Hero's turns, and if Catman is not adjacent to the chosen Hero, you may move Catman up to 4 spaces. If Catman ends his Hunter's Prowl move adjacent to the chosen Hero, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 11 or higher, the chosen Hero receives one wound. When Catman moves with Hunter's Prowl he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

OUTLAW COMMANDER

After revealing an Order Marker on Catman, instead of taking a turn with Catman, you may do one of the following:
  • Move any two Outlaw Heroes you control.
  • Attack with any two Outlaw Heroes you control.
  • Move any Outlaw Hero you control and attack with any other Outlaw Hero you control.
Any figure in the above list that is moving or attacking must be within clear sight of Catman before moving or attacking.

A COWARD'S REWARD
Catman rolls one additional die against figures leaving an engagement with him.
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DESIGN LOG:
- Changed Class from Outcast to Hunter
- Added A Coward's Reward
- Renamed TRACKING 8 to ON THE PROWL
- Added "no leaving engagement attacks" to ON THE PROWL
- Reworded and changed power name to PROWL
- Added OUTLAW COMMANDER
- Changed Defense from 2 to 3
- Changed Range from 5 to 1
- Changed Point Cost from 100 to 150
- Changed Outlaw Commander to give a list of options
- Revised Outlaw Commander
- Revised Prowl and changed name to Hunter's Prowl
_________________________________________________________________

Character Bio -
A renowned hunter turned bumbling villain, Tom Blake lived with a lion pride in the wild to rediscover himself. Now more deadly and resourceful, Catman has become one of the world's premier trackers and hunters.







-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
    _________________________________________________________________
-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received







Classic:
  • N/A
Marvel:
  • N/A
C3G:
  • N/A
Synergy Benefits Offered






Marvel:
  • N/A
Classic:
  • N/A
C3G:
  • N/A
_________________________________________________________________








-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • N/A
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • (Insert initial playtest here)
  • (Insert second playtest here)
  • (Insert third playtest here)
Outlaw proxies for playtesting.

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

We need both a good comic picture and mini pictures for Catman. I have the mini if needed.

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

Also, either Outcast or Hunter would work, depending on what synergies you want to work with.

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

I think Hunter is better. There's no synergy for either curently, so it doesn't really matter.

Also, the title of this thread should b "Book of Catman - Design Phase".

And finally, I was loking at this but couldn't find any way to improve it. Nice job!

EDIT: I'm liking this comic art...

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

I think I prefer Hunter better. I mean, I don't mind the cross-synergy goofiness of Outcast, I just think Hunter fits the theme of the card better.
It should be noted that DC character Wildcat actually has 9 lives, literally, as a power. I'm on the fence about giving Catman here 9 lives.
But, then, we did it with Catwoman, so there's certainly some consistency there ...
Another thing we might bring up in regards to class is - do we plan on doing the whole Secret Six at some point (I imagine we would) and how interested are we in giving them synergy if so? I know Spidey has some interest in this group, so I'd love to hear his thoughts both on this team wide synergy issue and on this design specifically.

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

Hunter it is then! The 9 Life is just a goofy thing (like it was for Catwoman) but it went over really well for Catwoman so I thought it might be nice for Catman too.

As for Secret Six synergy, I've read a Birds of Prey comic compilation. It seems that while the Secret Six work together, they don't really have much synergy. But that's just my very limited impression.

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I think I prefer Hunter better. I mean, I don't mind the cross-synergy goofiness of Outcast, I just think Hunter fits the theme of the card better.
It should be noted that DC character Wildcat actually has 9 lives, literally, as a power. I'm on the fence about giving Catman here 9 lives.
But, then, we did it with Catwoman, so there's certainly some consistency there ...
Another thing we might bring up in regards to class is - do we plan on doing the whole Secret Six at some point (I imagine we would) and how interested are we in giving them synergy if so? I know Spidey has some interest in this group, so I'd love to hear his thoughts both on this team wide synergy issue and on this design specifically.
Wildcat is in the works? That's the other mini sitting on my shelf, untouched, never used...

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Nobody said anything about Wildcat being designed - just passing on knowledge about a power of the actual comic book character.

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Nobody said anything about Wildcat being designed - just passing on knowledge about a power of the actual comic book character.
Ah, I see, I see...

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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

I'm loving this nice simple design!

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As for Secret Six synergy, I've read a Birds of Prey comic compilation. It seems that while the Secret Six work together, they don't really have much synergy. But that's just my very limited impression.
I think that Secret Six - like a lot of teams, including the modern Heroes for Hire I've been playing with in my head - would work better as a well-priced army than any sort of direct synergy. Have all six major members cost something in the 100 range, and add up to 600 Points for a nice even army with a good mix of powers (support, range, melee, so forth).

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I'm loving this nice simple design!
So am I. Honestly, assuming that we're going with the modern Catman instead of the classic Batman villain (even if they're the same person you know what I mean), I honestly don't have any problems with it. The 9 Life can be justified by his "magic cloak," so, nothing wrong there.

Any information on synergies for Hunters, though? If there are any, at least; I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Re: C3G Public Design: Catman - Design Phase

Speaking, of course, as an observer and someone who has totally no C3G status (ignore as needed!), I have the following comments:

I really like the simple design. No confusion as to what this guy does.

I understand the 9 lives thing, but is it thematic? First, Catman is an accomplished athlete and fighter. Not sure he should take wounds so easily. And second, his suit seems like it should cause him to heal, or perhaps ignore wounds, rather than make him be able to deal with a lot of damage.

I love tracking, but why the D20 roll? I would rather just see a leaving engagement mechanic (roll a combat die, skull = hit), since this is thematically more Catman making an opportunity attack that anything involving luck or skill (imho).

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