Psylocke (Betsy Braddock) (X-Force) - Page 11

Yodaking · #**121** September 21st, 2023, 05:42 PM

Happy with where the card is at, just not 100% on the points matching the card. We can try to keep an eye on it as we test other X-Force designs prior to release. I only worry about a future X-Force card taking a hit as a result. So future X-Force cards should be tested both with and without her. If they feel balanced without her and win easily with her, we'll know she's still a little too good for the points. If they are looking good with or without her, then she's good to go as well.

IAmBatman · #**122** September 21st, 2023, 05:43 PM

I think with the amount of things we toggled since the last test, one more to verify the cost probably makes sense

Karat · #**123** September 21st, 2023, 06:27 PM

I agree with Bats.

japes · #**124** September 22nd, 2023, 01:53 PM

I agree with Bats.

japes · #**125** September 22nd, 2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodaking

So future X-Force cards should be tested both with and without her. If they feel balanced without her and win easily with her, we'll know she's still a little too good for the points. If they are looking good with or without her, then she's good to go as well.

For sure. That will definitely happen. There are lots of variations of X-Force that I'll personally be testing out when I do Cable and Wolverine with lots of figures that cross over.

Skinderella · #**126** September 22nd, 2023, 06:27 PM

Makes sense to keep an eye on her when testing others, can always move her to On Hold when she's "done" just in case. She provides a lot of utility and she's arguably the easiest to take out in the faction with no healing or defensive power, so she'll have a big target on her.

Anyone have a desire to run a couple tests here? Can probably sneak some in myself tomorrow, but happy to let someone else mess with her if they'd like to.

Karat · #**127** September 22nd, 2023, 06:51 PM

I can try and get a feel for things with her. Probably wouldn't be till sometime Sunday though.

japes · #**128** September 22nd, 2023, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinderella

Makes sense to keep an eye on her when testing others, can always move her to On Hold when she's "done" just in case. She provides a lot of utility and she's arguably the easiest to take out in the faction with no healing or defensive power, so she'll have a big target on her.

Anyone have a desire to run a couple tests here? Can probably sneak some in myself tomorrow, but happy to let someone else mess with her if they'd like to.

No real reason to put her on hold. Nothing will get released yet and if she's on deck it will make it easier to test her more later.

Skinderella · #**129** September 23rd, 2023, 07:54 AM

Thanks Karat! That's fine there's no rush.

And regarding putting her on hold, that's fine then as long as there's potential to edit her after she's on deck. I don't imagine X-Force will be released in the next wave anyway.

Skinderella · #**130** September 23rd, 2023, 07:59 AM

Alex's tests are in! Didn't get to sending them the updated design, been a bit too busy, so this was Psylocke back when she still had range + 5 attack, could Lock the Pain on her own wounds, etc. Going by their questions on discord they'd begun playing the games as we were discussing things anyway.

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Originally Posted by AlexH12

Here are the tests! Sorry for the delay, had to get over the fear that my rust was going to mess up the tests lol

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Psylocke (X-Force)

Army Test
Map: Cell Games Arena
Units: Mister Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), Human Torch (225), Thing (325) (1000) VS Psylocke (240), Cyclops (240), Warpath (260), Archangel (260) (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

ROUND 1: I win initiative after adding 6 to my roll with Tactical Initiative X
Turn 1(Cyclops): Cyclops moves up and then Psylocke moves up with Leader of the X-Men.
Turn 1(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 15 on Fantastic Leader 4, letting Human Torch and Invisible Woman move up. Then Mister Fantastic moves up.
Turn 2(Cyclops): Cyclops moves up to height and attacks down on Mister Fantastic, rolling 2 skulls, blocked by 6 shields. Archangel moves up with Leader of the X-Men.
Turn 2(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 12 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves up and rolls 4 skulls against Cyclops, defending with 1 shield, taking 2 wounds with Psylocke’s Lock the Pain. Archangel reacts with his Avenging Angel + RWS combo, dealing a wound to Human Torch after rolling a 14. The Thing moves up. Mister Fantastic moves adjacent to Archangel and rolls 3 skulls, blocking with 3 shields.
Turn 3(Cyclops): Cyclops moves up and rolls 3 skulls against Mister Fantastic, defending with 2 shields, taking a wound. Archangel rolls 1 skull against Mister Fantastic, defending with 2 shields. Psylocke moves up.
Turn 3(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 20 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves adjacent to Cyclops and rolls 1 skull, defending with 4 shields. Invisible Woman moves up and rolls 3 skulls against Psylocke, defending with 3 skulls. The Thing moves up and throws some debris at Archangel, rolling 2 skulls, defending with 0 shields, taking 2 wounds. Mister Fantastic tries to attack Archangel, but doesn’t roll any skulls.

ROUND 2: I win initiative after adding 6 to my roll with Tactical Initiative X
Turn 1(Cyclops): Cyclops moves adjacent to Invisible Woman and attacks with his SA, rolling 4 skulls. Invisible Woman rolls 2 shields, being dealt 2 wounds. The Thing blocks with 5 shields. Psylocke takes advantage of Leader of the X-Men with Uncanny X-Force to give herself a move action and an attack action. Psylocke moves through Invisible Woman and deals a wound to her with Silent Strike. She then rolls 1 skull against Invisible Woman, defending with 0 shields, taking a wound.
Turn 1(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 6 for Fantastic Leader 4. Invisible Woman moves out of adjacency and throws debris at Cyclops, dealing one wound. Mister Fantastic rolls 2 skulls against Cyclops, defending with 1 shield and not taking any wounds because of Lock the Pain.
Turn 2(Cyclops): Cyclops and Psylocke try to attack Mister Fantastic, but their attacks are blocked.
Turn 2(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 16 for Fantastic Leader 4. The Thing moves adjacent to Psylocke and attacks rolling 6 skulls, defending with 5 shields, taking a wound. The Thing attacks again with 6 skulls, defending with 2 shields, taking 4 wounds and destroying Psylocke. Human Torch moves away from Cyclops and destroys him with Flame On. Human Torch rolls 4 skulls against Archangel, who whiffs his defense roll leading to his destruction. Mister Fantastic moves towards Warpath.
Turn 3(Cyclops):
Turn 3(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 10 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves within 3 spaces of Warpath. Warpath moves adjacent to Human Torch with Battle Ready. Human Torch rolls 3 skulls against Warpath, defending with 2 shields, taking a wound. Mister Fantastic rolls 1 skull against Warpath, defending with 2 shields.

ROUND 3: The Fantastic Four win initiative.
Turn 1(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 17 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves away from Warpath and takes a swipe. Flame on fails with a 2. Human Torch rolls 3 skulls against Warpath, defending with 2 shields and taking a wound. Invisible Woman moves up. Mister Fantastic rolls 1 skull against Warpath, defending with 1 shield.
Turn 1(Warpath): Warpath moves adjacent to Mister Fantastic and tries to attack him, but is blocked both times.
Turn 2(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 9 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves adjacent to Warpath and rolls 3 skulls, defending with 2 shields, taking a wound. Mister Fantastic rolls 2 skulls against Warpath, defending with 3 shields.
Turn 2(Warpath): Warpath tries to attack down on Human Torch, but both attacks are blocked.
Turn 3(Mister Fantastic): Mister Fantastic rolls a 19 for Fantastic Leader 4. Human Torch moves away from Warpath and takes a swipe. Human Torch rolls a 17 for Flame On, dealing 2 wounds to Warpath and destroying him.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Invisible Woman (4/5 wounds), Human Torch (3/5 wounds), Mister Fantastic (1/5 wounds), The Thing (unwounded).

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Army Test
Map: Cell Games Arena
Units: Black Canary (220), Green Arrow (210), Green Lantern (300), Hawkwoman (260) (990) VS Psylocke (240), Iron Man (270), X-23 (220), Warpath (260) (990)

Spoiler Alert!

Psylocke, X-23 and Warpath are part of the Avengers faction. There are four JL markers on both Black Canary and Green Arrow.
ROUND 1: I win initiative.
Turn 1(Iron Man): Iron Man moves up.
Turn 1(Black Canary): Black Canary moves up.
Turn 2(Iron Man): Warpath and X-23 move up.
Turn 2(Green Arrow): Green Arrow moves up and tries to shoot at X-23, but whiffs his attack roll. He fails his roll to attack again.
Turn 3(Iron Man): Iron Man moves up and attacks Black Canary twice, Black Canary matching shields to skulls each time. Psylocke moves up, and then X-23 maneuvers 3 spaces with Complete the Mission.
Turn 3(Black Canary): Black Canary moves adjacent to Iron Man and tries to attack, but whiffs her roll. Green Arrow removes a JL marker from his card and moves up. Green Arrow rolls 3 skulls against Iron Man, defending with 3 shields. Green Arrow rolls a 1 for Arrows of Justice.

ROUND 2: I win initiative.
Turn 1(Iron Man): Iron Man rolls 3 skulls against Black Canary, defending with no shields, taking 3 wounds. Black Canary deals a wound to X-23 with Canary Cry. Iron Man rolls 3 skulls against Black Canary, defending with 2 shields, taking a wound and destroying her. Warpath trades his attack phase to activate X-23. X-23 maneuvers 3 spaces to get adjacent to Green Arrow. X-23 rolls 3 skulls against him, defending with no shields, taking 3 wounds. X-23 heals a wound.
Turn 1(Black Canary):
Turn 2(Iron Man): X-23 rolls 1 skull against Green Arrow, defending with 0 shields, getting destroyed. Psylocke moves up.
Turn 2(Black Canary):
Turn 3(Psylocke): Psylocke moves up.
Turn 3(Black Canary):

ROUND 3: The opponent wins initiative.
Turn 1(Green Lantern): Green Lantern moves up and attacks Psylocke rolling 5 skulls, defending with 2 shields, taking 3 wounds.
Turn 1(Iron Man): Iron Man rolls 2 skulls against Green Lantern, defending with 2 shields. Iron Man rolls 3 skulls against Green Lantern, defending with 0 shields, taking 3 wounds. Psylocke gives up her attack phase to activate X-23. X-23 moves adjacent to Green Lantern and rolls 3 skulls, defending with 2 shields. Green Lantern fails his roll for Indomitable Will and is destroyed.
Turn 2(Green Lantern):
Turn 2(Iron Man): X-23 and Warpath move up.
Turn 3(Hawkwoman): Hawkwoman moves adjacent to X-23 and rolls 4 skulls, defending with 2 shields, taking 1 wound because of Lock the Pain. Warpath moves adjacent to Hawkwoman after she ends her movement.
Turn 3(Psylocke): Psylocke rolls 2 skulls against Hawkwoman, defending with 2 shields. X-23 heals a wound at the end of the round.

ROUND 4: The opponent wins initiative.
Turn 1(Hawkwoman): Hawkwoman rolls 2 skulls against Warpath from height, defending with 2 shields.
Turn 1(Iron Man): Iron Man tries to attack Hawkwoman, but both attacks are blocked. Psylocke gives her attack phase to activate X-23. X-23 rolls 1 skull against Hawkwoman, defending with 2 shields.
Turn 2(Hawkwoman): Hawkwoman rolls 1 skull against X-23, defending with 3 shields.
Turn 2(Psylocke): Psylocke moves through Hawkwoman and deals a wound to her with Silent Strike. Psylocke gives her attack phase to activate X-23. X-23 rolls 3 skulls against Hawkwoman, defending with 2 shields and taking a wound.
Turn 3(Hawkwoman): Hawkwoman rolls 5 skulls against Psylocke, defending with 1 shield, destroying her.
Turn 3(Iron Man): Warpath rolls 3 skulls against Hawkwoman, defending with 3 shields. Warpath rolls 4 skulls against Hawkwoman, defending with 3 shields, taking a wound. X-23 rolls 3 skulls against Hawkwoman, defending with 1 shield, getting destroyed.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Warpath (1/5 wounds), Iron Man (unwounded), X-23 (unwounded).

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Cost seems fair with the role she has in the faction. She seems balanced to me. Not overpowered, but it is satisfying whenever her powers come into play. Obviously a draftable option given the X-Force synergy.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Fun piece, can definitely have a good payout if you strategize well, which I feel I could've done a better job of as I’m quite rusty . I especially like the combo of her, X-23 and Iron Man. It feels great when you can get X-23 hot. Great piece and start to a faction, can’t wait to see more!

IAmBatman · #**131** September 30th, 2023, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Karat

I can try and get a feel for things with her. Probably wouldn't be till sometime Sunday though.

Is this still in the works or should we open up a slot for her?

Karat · #**132** September 30th, 2023, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman

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Originally Posted by Karat

I can try and get a feel for things with her. Probably wouldn't be till sometime Sunday though.

Is this still in the works or should we open up a slot for her?

Got busy last week but Skin and I were talking about tomorrow sometime hitting this together.

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