Summoner Wars by Plaid Hat Games

[MegaSilver]

Originally Posted by orcelfarmyone

So a question popped up today: I was playing the Benders and my dad was playing the Sand Goblins. At the end of the game it's summoner vs. summoner. Can Tuculu use his ability to discard Krusk for free? Are summoners counted as 0 cost units? Thanks!

No. Summoners are not affected by that ability. Also, they don't have a cost, but they are not 0.

[OEAO]

Ok thanks! I guess I lost.

[B:T:L Matt]

Originally Posted by orcelfarmyone

So a question popped up today: I was playing the Benders and my dad was playing the Sand Goblins. At the end of the game it's summoner vs. summoner. Can Tuculu use his ability to discard Krusk for free? Are summoners counted as 0 cost units? Thanks!

In my opinion, Summoners do not have a summon cost, therefore Tacullu's ability could not work on a summoner.

EDIT: Megasilver beat me to it...

[Ranior]

Yeah, those guys have it right. The rules are simply that summoners don't have a summon cost.

From a game balance perspective, Counter Summon cannot work on summoners, it would be far far too powerful if that was the case.

[killercactus]

And trust me - Tacullu does not need ANY more help. The Benders are already sick.

[OEAO]

I joined the forums! I am still orcelfarmyone there, and just posted a new thread on Deep Dwarves help in the strategy section.

[Hogg]

The second summoners have been posted!

http://www.plaidhatgames.com/news/194

[Scapemage]

I've been following the news; I'm excited!

[Bonesaw]

I bought the master set a few months back- the one with the thick, nice board. Going to play our first game within a week or two here...

I saw a thread on BGG where someone rated all the factions in various categories. I was slightly disapointed to see that the factions aren't as balanced as I had hoped.

Oh well...

[Rexmax2]

Originally Posted by killercactus

And trust me - Tacullu does not need ANY more help. The Benders are already sick.

Please no more help for tacullu! Monsterous counter summoning gun stunnung and force pushing evil!!!

[Ranior]

Originally Posted by Bonesaw

I bought the master set a few months back- the one with the thick, nice board. Going to play our first game within a week or two here...

I saw a thread on BGG where someone rated all the factions in various categories. I was slightly disapointed to see that the factions aren't as balanced as I had hoped.

Oh well...

The factions are quite balanced overall.

With 16 factions though, there are some matchups that are harder for once side or the other. Some factions are easier to play at a higher level, and so they are perceived to be better, even though many factions can beat them consistently, but it just take a bit more skill.

The win ratio for all the factions in real life games seems to be somewhere around 55-45%, based on self reporting on a google docs spreadsheet that takes player input from any who enter it in. The iOS faction stats are very similar to it.

Overall, the factions are pretty equal.

[Jexik]

Not sure if you've played a whole lot of competitive scape, but the tiers in Summoner Wars are divided the way they are in order to have a division somewhere.

I'd say that Tier 1 in SW is more like the A grouping in Scape. Tier 2 is A- or B+. Tier 3 is B or B+. The only way to get lower than that is to actively make your deck bad, which is hard to do because the deck construction is much more constrained than in HS.