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AoA Wave 2 Predictions
AoA is officially off the ground!
We know all of what is being included in wave one, and wave two is being announced in the summer. Since we know a significant number of units from the Haslab which were not included in wave one, I thought it'd be fun to speculate about what will be included in wave two. In terms of delivery, I expect there will be an emphasis on faction boxes. The master set and battle box are providing a fair amount of terrain, and I expect an emphasis on adding more units. Without further ado, here's my prediction. AoA wave two will consist of 1 battle box, 4 faction boxes, and an additional terrain set. 4 faction boxes will include: Nemesis War Brood - Festering Honor Guard, Oathbound Legionnaires/Phalanx, Queen Maladrix Dryan Lifeborne Order - Chana, Girushia, Haluchott, Halushia, Marachott, Vrono Ironclad Collective - Hellforge, Iron Lich, Scavorith, Thyraxis Dragoon, Necrotechs Clockwork Combine - Zed Nesbitt, Ordo Borealis, Adelbern, Burrowbreaker The Battle box will be a Clockwork Combine and Pirates scenario and include Avalon Hill units in each faction. As such, it will include pirates Cornelius Breech, Crimson Widow, Dreadnauts of New Tortuga. Clockwork Combine figures will be Imperator Kayne, Glide Strikers, and Tuck Harrigan. Since the first terrain set included jungle, which is the most difficult terrain to acquire in original 'scape, I predict the next terrain box will have some snow! Notably this leaves out the new Kyrie, as well as Q-11 and the new Sonlen. I expect they'll keep those last two as future promotional units, and maybe try to sneak a Kyrie or two in the battle box. Ultimately, I'm just excited to get the original play tested designs and have Heroscape back on the shelf! |
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Great concept. My guess is a wasteland terrain pack and 3 faction packs and 3 common figure packs containing unreleased figures from AOA and figures made by renegade. The faction packs will be the rest of the pirates we've allready seen, the rest of the dryans, and the queen and her gaurd. We will seen how wrong I am lol.
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My personal prediction is one terrain pack with illusory walls and associated rules and up to three faction boxes or classic Heroscape-style mixed boxes, likely featuring the Eiseneks, the War Brood, and—as Volarak's debut units—the Vorids. In general I expect that Renegade will work through all of the remaining AoA units before releasing anything new, and that terrain sets will appear at least once every other wave to help new hobbyists build more interesting maps and to allow older players to replace their aging tiles. |
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According to this article we’re looking at 2 “army expansions” (faction packs?) and 1 terrain expansion. I would bet on the Terrain expansion being a Wall pack.
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/...lease-calendar |
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Well that certainly gives reason to narrow down the speculation. With only 2 unit expansion packs I gotta think they'll have a good number of units in them (maybe 10 each?). Otherwise, releasing half the AoA content and calling it two waves would be disappointing. |
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All of my predictions are based on Renegade wanting to use what they bought from AH while also playing it safe until they have made their money back from the acquisition. If I were them, I would be making stuff that is low cost, looks cool, entices new players, and is just special/nostalgic enough to keep old players. Wave 2: Pre Orders Promo - Q11 Box 1: Dawn Raider/Dryan Heroes Marachott, Mind Whisperer Girushia, Grove Keeper Halushia, Scion of the Wild Chana the Zenithwing Haluchott, Corruptor of Beasts Vrono the Brambletoth Crimson Widow Cornelius Breech, the Derelict Prince $50 - 8 figures total Box 2: Nemesis War Brood Queen Maladrix the Conqueror Oathbound Phalanx Oathbound Legionnaires - 4 figures Festering Honor Guard - 4 figures $50 - 10 figures total Terrain Expansion Road 2.0 hexes with new/standard trees and/or more Laurs Ruins. $50 I feel like Renegade expects new players to look at the old stuff and be like "Man, all this rock and grass is boring" and are therefore inclined to release something with unique hexes and LoS obstacles. They already copied Jungle so they might as well copy the other terrain to start and then get more creative as time goes on. Wave 3 Predictions: Pre Orders Promo - Sonlen Box 1: Warbrood/Dawn Raider "fillers" aka evil guys Iron Lich Viscerot Hellforge Mandukor Scavorith, Lord of Ruin Thyraxis Dragoon Necrotech Wraithriders - 3 figures Dreadnauts of New Tortuga - 3 figures $50 - 10 figures total Box 2: Clockwork Combine Air Marshal Zed Nesbitt Imperator Kayne Wing Commander Tuck Harrigan Vorid Burrowbreaker Vorid Glide Strikers - 3 figures Knight Primus Adelbern Ordo Borealis - 3 figures $50 - 11 figures Terrain Expansion Snow 2.0 with either new glaciers or some other LoS obstacle Wave 4 Predictions Box 1: Kyrie squad pack/fillers Aquilla Kyrie - 3 figures Revna Kyrie - 3 figures Volrak Kyrie? - 3 Figures $50 - 9 figures Box 2: Large/Flight Heroes Pack Aquilla Dragon Volrak Dragon Aquilla Kyrie Hero 1 Aquilla Kyrie Hero 2 Revna Kyrie Hero 1 Volrak Kyrie Hero 1 Volrak Kyrie Hero 2 $50 - 7 figures Terrain Expansion Lava 2.0 with either lava rocks or some other LoS obstacle Wave 5 Predictions Box 1: "Evil" common squads box Common Utgar Pirate Squad - 4 figures Common Revna Pirate Squad - 4 figures Volrak New Species Common Squad - 4 figures $50 - 12 figures Box 2: Aquilla and other "good forces" common squads and beasts Common Dwarf Pirate Squad to bond with Dorim - 4 figures Aquilla Common/Uncommon Beasts - 2 figures Ullar Common/Uncommon Beasts - 2 figures Aquilla Wyrmling - 2 figures Revna Wormlings - 2 figures $50 - 12 figures Terrain Expansion Swamp 2.0 with a new type of Laurs Ruins add-on or swamp trees/fallen logs Last edited by chief; March 10th, 2024 at 03:35 AM. |
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I like a lot of this |
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I actually meant to say Valkrill not Volrak. I think they will axe Volrak from AoA and split up certain units across Valkrill and Revna. Vydar also needs kyrie still.
Aquila, Valkrill, and Revna need flag bearers at some point too. That could be a special release or replace a terrain pack for one of the waves. |
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The common theme here is more Avalon Hill AOA and Walls. If this is so, I'll be starting my buying with Wave 2! My question is whether any of the Faction Packs will duplicate what is already out for figure completion. For example, they have said the Promo figures of Drake and Shiori will be available later for everyone.
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I'd be okay with them axing Volarak, I don't know what she adds thematically that can't already be covered by the existing generals |
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I think much of what you've said is very believable, especially the idea of Renegade making safe decisions with AoA and nostalgic content. They're relaunching a long-dead game, so it would be in their best interest to push out material that caters directly to their prospective audience's desires. This is definitely also the purpose of the Heroscape launch survey, as a probe of their most dedicated fans' interests is a smart business decision for a creative endeavor like this. I don't think we'll be seeing another Aquilla Dragon soon, though, nor more Wyrmlings. We already have Xenithrax in the AoA Master Set, and the Wyrmlings are technically a licensed property from the D&D era despite playing like homages to the classic Dragons. Quote:
------------------------ I'd also like to revise my previous predictions, as I now believe we'll be seeing several Common Squads by Summer 2025. If Renegade is going to host mixed (new + classic) formats at their vaunted GenCon tournament, I doubt they'd lock some of the game's strongest and most fundamental army archetypes, specifically those involving massed (bonding) commons, behind units that have been out of production for over a decade. Doing so would place newer players at a significant disadvantage compared to long-term collectors. |
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