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Old March 9th, 2022, 03:35 PM
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Re: The Book of Nikki

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I do think this faction is running into a design element where the SAs are consistently better than the normal attacks. Which isn't a problem per se, but it's something worth noting as it's pretty abnormal.
I'm not sure I totally agree there. The team is as follows currently:
1. Charlie has a SA but its once a round and you'd much rather have in engaged attacking with his normal attack.
2. Yondu has no SA, he has a once a round Special Power that is very swingy.
3. Nikki currently has no SA, but a potentially too powerful normal attack outside the Guardians.
4. Marty definitely will be SA oriented but its limited to non-adjacent attacks. I would consider dropping his SA for a normal attack/special power, if it's an issue.
5. Vance has a Special Attack that will be used often but its the characters main attack thematically

I feel like its going to be pretty balanced.
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Old March 9th, 2022, 04:33 PM
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Re: The Book of Nikki

With the change to Nikki, that's 3/5 of them that primarily want to attack with with thier SAs when they can. (Nikki, Martinex, Vance) Martinex and Vance do have the non-adjacent requirement, which helps.

On most designs, the SA is an optional way of attacking that isn't inherently better/worse than the normal attack. (Or the SA is limited to once per round/game, or the SA can only be used in specific circumstances, etc.) On those 3, there are going to be a lot of instances where the SAs are going to be straight superior to the normal attack and the primary way of attacking with the character.

Again, I don't think it's a flaw, it's just a very uncommon design element, since I can't think of any other faction that favors SAs that strongly. Might be worth including SA synergy in a future design.
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Re: The Book of Nikki

SP updated. Will see how 1st round of playtesting with Martinex goes before updating cards.
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Re: The Book of Nikki

So to give feedback, I felt like Nikki's Stun Guns were pretty potent in my games. Maybe I was just getting lucky, but 2 SA attacks of 4 are nothing to laugh at, especially with the re-roll boost.

I do wonder if the re-roll is worth the added complexity now that it's an SA? Like I could see a case to just make it a +1 attack or even drop the re-roll entirely.

I do think the 5 range on the normal vs. 4 range on the special feels odd - it never actually mattered in my games, I don't think. Maybe her normal range could be 6 to give them a bit of a difference?

Like here's a potential suggestion, though I'm not sure it doesn't mess with the balance of the design too much. More a "for your consideration" thing!
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RANGE = 6

DUAL STUN GUNS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4.
After attacking, Nikki may attack one additional time. If a wound was inflicted on the first attack, Nikki may re-roll one attack die on the second attack. If Nikki inflicted one or more wounds against the same figure with each attack, you may remove one Order Marker at random from that figure's Army Card.
She seems balanced, just a thought I had.
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Re: The Book of Nikki

I put the re-roll in there to represent her sharpshooting ability. I don't think it's super important though and could see dropping it and bumping normal range to 6.


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So to give feedback, I felt like Nikki's Stun Guns were pretty potent in my games. Maybe I was just getting lucky, but 2 SA attacks of 4 are nothing to laugh at, especially with the re-roll boost.

I do wonder if the re-roll is worth the added complexity now that it's an SA? Like I could see a case to just make it a +1 attack or even drop the re-roll entirely.

I do think the 5 range on the normal vs. 4 range on the special feels odd - it never actually mattered in my games, I don't think. Maybe her normal range could be 6 to give them a bit of a difference?

Like here's a potential suggestion, though I'm not sure it doesn't mess with the balance of the design too much. More a "for your consideration" thing!
Quote:
RANGE = 6

DUAL STUN GUNS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 4. Attack 4.
After attacking, Nikki may attack one additional time. If a wound was inflicted on the first attack, Nikki may re-roll one attack die on the second attack. If Nikki inflicted one or more wounds against the same figure with each attack, you may remove one Order Marker at random from that figure's Army Card.
She seems balanced, just a thought I had.
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Re: The Book of Nikki

Dual Stun Guns is missing the Special Attack part of the power's name.
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Dual Stun Guns is missing the Special Attack part of the power's name.
Good catch, I'll let @Dr. Jekyll know
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Re: The Book of Nikki

Pre-release: PDF needs to be updated to Range “6” and add “Special Attack” after Dual Stun Guns.
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Re: The Book of Nikki

Had this one as well. Updated

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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