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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Vote for playtesting

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Black Tarantula

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS
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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 290
- Give a brief overview. Black Tarantula was instrumental in winning this battle, getting a couple good hits on the Fighters as well as one Eye Blast attack that hit all of them that he had to take 2 LEAs for. He didn’t get a chance to heal Black Mask, but he did well regardless.
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Black Mask, Black Tarantula, 3x Street Thugs (615) vs. Luke Cage, Jewel, Iron Fist (600)

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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 290
- Give a brief overview. Black Tarantula makes full use of the rest of his powers this game, healing Kingpin and putting several wounds on Captain Marvel with Close Combat Expert. He does pretty well this time as well, but still falls before Captain Marvel after putting 3 Wounds on him.
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Kingpin, 4x Intergang Agents, Black Tarantula (990) vs. Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), Ronan, 6x Kree Scouts (1,000)

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

Looks good so far, though I'd say those tests support 300. Not enough by themselves to suggest we should boost him yet, though.

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

Well I tested him at 300 in my army tests and he lost both. The second one probably should have been played better against Ms. Marvel's army as it was my first time playing her and she's pretty nasty. So I could see 300 if there are more tests like FG's

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

Ms. Marvel is super nasty.

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

Viegon sent me this PM regarding Black Tarantula's Healer X.

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Hey, turns out I do have a question. For my third game, I was planning to play Black Tarantula with the Intergang Agents; my question is: do you have to have a wounded hero to heal next to Tarantula to reveal the "X" via "Healer X"? Or can he reveal it with no figure to heal for the sake of "In it for the Money"?
Intergang Agents

Perhaps we should change this below so that it's clearer that you have to be able to remove a Wound Marker in order to reveal the X. I think it was okay the way it was as it was "reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card and remove a Wound Marker of an adjacent figure..." because are revealing the X and doing something else. If you can't do the something else, you shouldn't be able to reveal the X.

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Before moving, you may reveal an “X” Order Marker on this card and to remove one Wound Marker from the Army Card of an adjacent figure that is not a destructible object or Android. After taking a turn with Black Tarantula, remove 1 Wound Marker from this Army Card.

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

Makes sense. Similar to how Avalanche can't use his SA without having a target in order to trigger Outcast Ambush.
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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

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Alright, here's my report. I really enjoyed playing Black Tarantula, he's my type of unit: fast, multiple attacking choices, slightly supportive with Healer X, some synergies but can be played outside of them. In short, a blast to play.

I also found his points seemed about spot on. The first game he got some unlucky defense, but still did fairly well. The second game he was the OM drop, though the Hired Guns did most of the damage. And the third game his support (Intergang Agents and War Machine) dropped out super early, but he was able to hold out for awhile, bringing the game closer.

My only complaint would be that his SA felt underused. Between his normal ranged attack and Close Combat Expert, I found I only ever considered using the SA when it could hit multiple targets, but with only a range of 3 it can be tough to set up (though it could have just been my match-ups). From a game-play standpoint, I think I'd like to see the attack either raised 1 on his SA or his normal attack lowered 1 (or maybe SA range increased to 4).


C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Black Tarantula

- THEME TEST
Pass

- MIRROR TEST
Pass

- BONDING TEST
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST
Pass

- POWER CHECK
Pass

- FUN TEST
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST
Pass

- USAGE TEST
Pass, though his SA was a little underused for my tastes.

- STRATEGY TEST
Pass

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Army Test 1
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? Bad luck made 290 seem too high
- Give a brief overview. A pretty tight battle between Adventurers and Criminals; Tarantula did alright, though some bad defense rolls took him out of the game much earlier then he should have.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 wound to Invisible Women, 1 wound to Mass Master, 1 wound to Mr. Fantastic.
Special Attack: 1 wound to Human Torch.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Healer X: Revealed “X” 1 times, healed himself 0 times.
Eye Blast SA: Used 2 times out of 6 total attacks in 5 rounds.
Close Combat Expert: Boosted attack 4 times, boosted defense 2 times.

Map: X Marks the Spot (no glyphs, Knockback)
Units: Black Tarantula, Kingpin, Parasite, Sandman, Scarecrow (1000 points) VS Lightspeed, Energizer, Mass Master, Zero-G, Invisible Woman, Mister Fantastic, Human Torch (Johnny Storm), Atom, Skrull Infiltrator x2 (995 points)

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Army Test 2
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 290 sounds fair
- Give a brief overview. Tarantula’s team came out with a staggering win. After taking 1 turn each to get Jocasta and the Hired Guns in place, I could pile all the OMs on Tarantula, letting him dart around, heal when needed, and have the tactical choice of his normal attack, his SA, or the Hired Guns. In the end, though, I think it was just an unfair match-up; Hired Guns seems to eat up melee.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 Gorilla City Warrior, all 4 wounds to Captain Boomerang.
Special Attack: N/A.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Healer X: Revealed “X” 1 times, healed himself 0 times.
Eye Blast SA: Used 0 times out of 5 total attacks in 4 rounds.
Close Combat Expert: Boosted attack 5 times, boosted defense 0 times.

Map: X Marks the Spot (no glyphs, Knockback)
Units: Black Tarantula, Hired Guns, Jocasta (600 points) VS Gorilla City Warriors x2, Solovar, Captain Boomerang (600 points)

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Army Test 3
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 290 seems solid
- Give a brief overview. Some crazy swing in this game: Harley got lucky in the first round with Smilex Bomb and killed 8 of the 9 Intergang Agents before they got a turn, but then died the following turn to Tarantula on a defense whiff; shortly after that, War Machine died in one turn to Deadpool, but then both Kitty and Tarantula lasted for awhile. In the end though, Army 2 had 3 unwounded heroes still standing.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage:
Normal Attack: all 3 wounds to Harley Quinn, 9 wounds to Deadpool, 1 Joker Goon, 2 wounds to Ragdoll.
Special Attack: 1 wound to Ragdoll.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Healer X: Revealed “X” 1 times, healed himself 8 times.
Eye Blast SA: Used 1 times out of 9 total attacks in 4 rounds.
Close Combat Expert: Boosted attack 8 times, boosted defense 8 times.

Map: X Marks the Spot (no glyphs, Knockback)
Units: Black Tarantula, Intergang Agents x3, War Machine, Shadowcat (1000 points) VS Joker Goons, Joker (II), Harley Quinn, Deadpool, Green Goblin, Ragdoll (1005 points)

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Re: The Book of Black Tarantula - Playtesting

The special attack is meant to be used sparingly as it takes him time to recharge it and he doesn't it all the time like Cyclops would. It is still a better option than his normal attack with range if he is within 3 straight spaces being that it's an attack of 5 instead of 4. But for the most part, it is really nice to have handy to bypass special defenses that work against normal attacks.

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