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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.

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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Vote for Initial Playtesting

Yea, slight lean #1
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

Yea and I prefer #1.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

1 it is. This passes.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Colossus (AoA)

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Army Test 1 @300
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Colossus(300), Sabretooth(270), Wild Child(160) (730)
vs.
Cap(240), Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240) (730)
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Sabretooth change.
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Army Test 2 @300
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Colossus(300), Professor X(220), Phoenix(230), Angel(90) (840)
vs.
Nightwing(200), Superboy(240), Raven(190), Starfire(210) (840)
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Eyeing 270 for him.
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Army Test 3 @270
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Colossus(270), Sabretooth(270), Wild Child(160), Rogue (300) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four (1000)
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Army Test 4 @270
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Colossus(270), Sabretooth(270), Wild Child(160), Jean Grey (240) (940)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Daredevil(200), Tigra(170), Firestar(120) (940)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
He feels like a big bruiser trying to save his dying teammates before it is too late, so the theme there is great. His Steel Body allows for some nice potential on defense, but skulls being more likely than shields, means the opponent still usually breaks through for a wound or two on bigger hits. Special Attacks especially. Cost wise, anywhere between 270-300 feels like the right area, so we'll have to see how further playtesting shakes out.

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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

This one really lapped me. But I dig it, very specific powerset but it works for a fairly niche version of the character. And it feels right for a super edgy 90s Colossus that steps on his friends.

Only things I'll mention are editing stuff - I think Steel Skin and Hard Body should be split back out since I think there might be synergy stuff with Steel Skin, according to the recent addition to the Synergy Archives. And Protective Fury will need a new name since the original doesn't quite mirror this one.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

Fine either way, split or combined.

As for Protective Fury, all I changed was the 2 callouts. I believe we usually keep the same name?
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

Yup and I prefer combined.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

The Steel Skin callout is for Magenta, who only affects d20 rolls. Since Colossus doesn’t have one, it doesn’t matter.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

Difference for me is that the classes in Protective Fury aren't symmetrical - like, if Starfire's only triggered on Titans, and Colossus only trigger on Rebels, it would match, because the power's generic text would be, like, [this unit's class]. But Starfire has both Titan and Sidekick, two classes, and Colossus has both Mutant and Rebel, a species and a class.

For me, that's enough of a difference to warrant a different name. But reasonable people can differ.
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

Could a second class work there for the theme instead of connecting him to any old mutant?
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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

I know they're technically different leftbox areas, but here's one where I'll beg to differ on the basis of what's intuitively parallel rather than what's technically parallel. Titan and Sidekick is Starfire's functional faction. Mutant and Rebel is Colossus' functional faction. So that scans intuitively as parallel to me in that sense.

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Re: The Book of Colossus (AoA) (Initial Playtesting)

I definitely disagree with the idea that what matters most in a power re-use is staying in some sort of predetermined lane. To me, it’s a matter of changing only the variables, but keeping the rest the same. Variables in most cases are the effective range and call outs. As a player familiar with the power, if I can just read those variables and be able to play the power correctly, that’s all that’s important. Species, Class, Uniqueness, Size, Personality...those are all acceptable/interchangeable call outs. Granted, a power’s name may conflict with something making sense, but that’s not applicable here.

A character who is furiously protective of Mutants and Rebels is no different than one who is furiously protective of Titans and Sidekicks. Same could be said for Small or Insane Heroes. The theme(protecting those closest to the character at hand) is all still there. The setup is still the same. The trigger is the same. The benefit is the same. The power is the same.
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