The Book of Thanos

[jschild]

Originally Posted by RickyDMMontoya

And, he's never really done that before.

His ability in Heroscape never really made sense in terms of the comics. He was never really "rejected" before, but rather was often given a cold shoulder. He hadn't died until Drax Killed him at the end of Annihilation, so he never had a chance to come back to life. He came back to life in an Adam Warlock style cocoon at the start of the Thanos Imperative.

He even states in the second panel of the third bottom image that now Death has rejected him.

So finally his power makes sense, as though JMS played Heroscape.
So finally he has the ability to reconstitute himself a short time after he is killed, as though they saw his Scape card and said "hey, that would be interesting."

Actually, Death has rejected him many times before, just not in that way.

[RickyDMMontoya]

I know...

But he has never died and come back to life.

He has now. In short order.

So finally his Heroscape card matches the comics. After the fact.

I mean, if his Heroscape 'Rejected By Death' power was "Every time you reveal an order marker, roll a D20, if you roll a 1, Thanos gets sad," then it would have matched the previous comics. Now it makes sense.

[tcglkn]

Thanos would be good with an Elemental army, 3 turns per OM to try and bring Thanos back.

[tomcollins2000]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Thanos would be good with an Elemental army, 3 turns per OM to try and bring Thanos back.

Thats a great idea!

[Elginb]

Of course, Thanos + Kurrok is 480 points right off the bat...

[tcglkn]

Originally Posted by Elginb

Of course, Thanos + Kurrok is 480 points right off the bat...

In a higher point army that you would use SuperHeros in, the norm for that is 600-1000.

[dok]

This was first brought up in the Elementals Strategy and Discussion thread. And yes, it could work, but you need a LOT of points to pull it off. Something like:

80 Raelin RotV
80 Deathreavers x2
120 Kurrok
280 Fire Elemental x8
360 Thanos
920, 19 hexes

But yes, this way you can roll for rejected by death three times in an OM, and bring him back in about a round on average. I don't have much experience with 900 point games, but I think this would be a very powerful build.

[Kaiser Cat]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

In a higher point army that you would use SuperHeros in, the norm for that is 600-1000.

Actually, according to the Marvel Rulebook the average is about 1250.

[Devil's Advocate]

Still skeptical about a Thanos + Kurrock build. Many high priced units such as Marvel, Dragons, etc can fly and could just ignore Thanos and one shot or two shot Kurrock, thereby leaving a pretty weak army for the rest of the game.

[CheddarLimbo]

Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate

Still skeptical about a Thanos + Kurrock build. Many high priced units such as Marvel, Dragons, etc can fly and could just ignore Thanos and one shot or two shot Kurrock, thereby leaving a pretty weak army for the rest of the game.

Well, you'd still have Thanos. He's kind of an army by himself... And actually, the direct damage caused by Fire Elementals is really vicious against the Super Heroes because it circumvents their very high defense rolls.

[IAmBatman]

I typically play 600-1200 point games for SuperHeroscape. Anything over 1200 points can sometimes get wonky.
I have played a lot of 1600 point games lately that were pretty fun, though ...

[dok]

In general, "fly in and one or two shot Kurrok" is easier said than done. Even the fastest figures are going to see a full turn of attacks in there, plus a few disengagement attacks. Given the offensive output of the FEs, that could kill the hero before it closes. And in this sort of army, I'd be inclined to just surround Raelin+Kurrok with rats, which means melee foes don't really get the chance.

At any rate, the point in this thread is the benefit to Thanos moreso than the viability of the build.