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Old March 19th, 2019, 10:41 AM
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Old March 24th, 2019, 05:45 PM
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

What is the difference between a C3V figure design and an approved SOV design (marked with an red asterisk)? Are they equally accepted in the Heroscape cannon?
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What is the difference between a C3V figure design and an approved SOV design (marked with an red asterisk)? Are they equally accepted in the Heroscape cannon?
Yes, they are equally accepted.

The C3V is a group that privately created designs, and tests their own creations, only showing them once they are nearly complete, and ready to use. It was started by community leaders, and people who used to play test the official designs when Hasbro was creating Heroscape. It has since taken in others throughout the community, with the goal of continuing to expand the heroscape lore, and design space in an interesting and balanced way.

The SoV is a group of judges that work with the C3V. Anyone can take their own designs that they feel will improve the heroscape lore/game play/design space/etc, and submit them to these judges. If they see them to be well designed, and balanced, they will take that design, and review it privately with the C3V. If it passes this review, they will then test the design to see if there were any flaws they didn't immediately see, that will come out in play testing. These testing phases can include upwards of 50 hours of testing per design, per judge, and each judge generally has multiple designs to test at the same time, which usually need to be tested separately. After a judge have had time to play test a design, they will write a review, and state whether they feel the design is good enough to be passed into the SoV approved canon. If a majority approve the design, it gets reviewed one last time by the C3V and the SoV including judges that may not have been assigned to that design, and if it passes that review, it is added to the accepted pool of SoV/C3V approved designs.

We all wish Heroscape had not ended, and the C3V/SoV were the answer to that. They have been going for years, and have a lot of experience, and hold themselves to a high standard, which had lead to the majority of the community to feel a high level of respect for them.
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@Left_it thank you for clarifying this for me. I thought they were equally accepted.
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@Left_it thank you for clarifying this for me. I thought they were equally accepted.
They are equally accepted with each other, and at the great majority of tournaments around the country, they are also accepted equally with "official" units. Some tournaments, most notably at GenCon, don't. But most allow them.

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They are equally accepted with each other, and at the great majority of tournaments around the country, they are also accepted equally with "official" units. Some tournaments, most notably at GenCon, don't. But most allow them.
Thank you for this additional information. We enjoy playing with C3V and SOV figures.
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Excellent! That makes me very happy. Thank you for telling us.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

If the C3V and SoV figs are equally accepted and from the same group, then why differentiate between 2 different group names? It is a bit confusing when you look at the list of C3V figs and you see asterisks by certain figs. When you pull up the card for those figs, the initials SoV are on the edge of the card. This made me think that there is a difference between those figs and the ones without asterisks. Can you please explain this further?
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If the C3V and SoV figs are equally accepted and from the same group, then why differentiate between 2 different group names? It is a bit confusing when you look at the list of C3V figs and you see asterisks by certain figs. When you pull up the card for those figs, the initials SoV are on the edge of the card. This made me think that there is a difference between those figs and the ones without asterisks. Can you please explain this further?
While I don't disagree, the reason is essentially that they started out as two different groups and as part of the decision to work together, both wanted to retain their own identities.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

So actually all figs on the list (asterisk or not), are approved figures for a tournament as long as the tournament director(s) say C3V allowed? So I guess you could say that SoV figs are a subset within the heading of the C3V?
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

Since I'm not currently active in either group, I'm going to have to defer to the experts on that question! Honestly, though, this seems like a question for your tournament director.

I'm no good at any of that stuff. I just play for fun.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

You could use Valhalla Customs (VC) to refer to both C3V and SoV. Despite being separate groups, all of the units are designed to be used together, so it's doubtful that a tournament would only allow C3V units or only SoV ones.

I do agree that it could be a little clearer if the SoV entries didn't have the asterisk or the unique logo on their card, but that was part of the discussion between the people in charge of the projects at the time, and it's stuck since then.

If a tournament director only says that C3V units are allowed, you could probably ask really quickly if they're also including SoV ones to be 100% sure, although I don't see why they wouldn't be.
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