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The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black)

The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Captain America set.
Its model number and name are #032 / Scorpion.

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Character Bio - The genetically-engineered daughter of Monica Rappaccini, Carmilla Black didn't know her mother growing up, and was raised by adoptive parents. It was a complete surprise to Carmilla when her powers manifested at the age of sixteen, killing her boyfriend at a homecoming dance. After discovering her powers, Carmilla ran away from home and tried to stay hidden, but returned to her hometown when her adoptive parents were murdered. Returning home brought her into the middle of the conflict between SHIELD and AIM, eventually leading her to become an agent of SHIELD. Carmilla has crossed paths with Bruce Banner (and his big, green alter ego) several times, and suspects that he may be her biological father.

As a result of AIM's genetic modifications, Carmilla is immune to all toxins, and her body is capable of processing irritants like smoke and nerve gas without missing a beat. She's even unaffected by gamma rays and nuclear fallout. Her main offensive weapon is the "stinger" in her left arm. Her body stores toxins in a gland near her heart, and she can expel them through her left hand to incapacitate or even kill targets.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
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Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a Tricky figure, Scorpion interacts differently with these special powers.
  • Due to her Enhanced Filtration special power, Scorpion is not affected by Gas Glyphs.
  • Androids, Constructs, and Undead are not affected by Scorpion's Scorpion Sting special power. Current Androids, Constructs, and Undead.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: Ronin
  • Second playtest: johnny139 (@130, Stinger rolls 11, 19 )
  • Third playtest: laughing matter (@130, Stinger rolls 11, 19 )
  • Fourth playtest: Lazy Orang (@120, Stinger rolls 11, 19 )
  • Fifth playtest: Ronin (@120, Stinger rolls 10, 18 )
  • Art: Comic, Figure, Background
  • Art by Arkham
  • Carmilla Black created by Fred van Lente and Leonard Kirk
  • Comic art by James Jean

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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

NAME = SCORPION
SECRET IDENTITY = CARMILLA BLACK

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = AGENT
PERSONALITY = TRICKY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 120


SCORPION STING
After attacking an adjacent figure with Scorpion's normal attack, you may roll the 20-sided die. Add 1 to the roll for each wound the defending figure received from that attack.
-If you roll 9 or lower, nothing happens.
-If you roll 10-18, the defending figure receives a wound.
-If you roll 19 or higher, the defending figure receives two wounds.
Androids, Constructs, Undead, and destructible objects are not affected by Scorpion Sting.

DISENGAGE
Scorpion is never attacked when leaving engagements.

ENHANCED FILTRATION
Scorpion is not affected by Gas Glyphs.

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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

I think pretty much all the theme notes I'm trying to hit are right there in the bio. SHIELD ties, poison powers, pretty durable as teenagers with bare midriffs go. Aiming for her to come out a pretty lean design at 140-150 points.
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Aww... I was hoping for the Scarlet Spiders.
Still, Carmilla looks cool.

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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

Scarlet Spiders almost work for me, but I'm still not 100% satisfied with em. Need to let them sit for a while. Carmilla was ready to deploy, though.

Also, there's a bonus little thematic link to Kristoff in that they're both children of supervillains.
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Also, there's a bonus little thematic link to Kristoff in that they're both children of supervillains.
Trying to build up a booster pack, here?


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Yeah, I'm working on getting a booster started for a future release. Probably not hard to guess what figures are going into that one.
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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

I'm not seeing 5 life for her after reading the bio. All those things she is durable against seem to be well covered by the immunity power. Getting smashed in the face with Thor's hammer is another story all together.

I like the direction you are going with the Stinger power, but I think it is a little strong as is. She is currently scoring at least 1 auto-wound on 50% of all attack rolls, even those where she does not roll a single skull. Once she starts rolling skulls the odds go up and she also has the chance to score 2 auto-wounds. Compare her to Cheshire's poison for a moment and Cheshire needs to roll a skull first, then scores 1W on a 13+ and that is it. No chance for a second wound, no increasing odds, no D20 roll even on a total miss/whiff.
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I'm not seeing 5 life for her after reading the bio. All those things she is durable against seem to be well covered by the immunity power. Getting smashed in the face with Thor's hammer is another story all together.
Strongly disagree. There are a lot of powers she should be immune to that the Immunity power simply can't cover, like every poison power ever. She should also be radiation-resistant, but you can't do that without going full Environmental Suit.

EDIT: Thinking it over, I actually wouldn't mind paring the immunity power back to just gas glyphs and dropping the "-2 to opponent's d20 rolls" bit, since the powers she's getting a resistance to there aren't a particularly thematic group. We've gone up over 4 Life for the sake of old wives' tales about cats before, though, so you're gonna have a hard time selling me on the idea that 5 Life is unthematic for a person genetically engineered to thrive in nightmarish toxic wastelands. All Life numbers look too high when you look through the lens of "How many times could Thor cudgel this person in the face before they stopped moving?"

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I like the direction you are going with the Stinger power, but I think it is a little strong as is. She is currently scoring at least 1 auto-wound on 50% of all attack rolls, even those where she does not roll a single skull. Once she starts rolling skulls the odds go up and she also has the chance to score 2 auto-wounds. Compare her to Cheshire's poison for a moment and Cheshire needs to roll a skull first, then scores 1W on a 13+ and that is it. No chance for a second wound, no increasing odds, no D20 roll even on a total miss/whiff.
Cheshire's a very different unit that's balanced around different things. Namely a decent normal attack, some lockdown/bonus auto-wounding, and a solid defensive power against range, all things Scorpion does not have. In Scorpion's case, the stinger is pretty much her whole offense, and it should be stronger than Cheshire's poison power. Her normal attack isn't worrying most units. I'm willing to fiddle with the numbers a little to get the balance just so (I could see upping the stinger roll a little and bumping her normal attack to 3), but the stinger should be fairly strong.

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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

I like the design as-is, personally. I could see tweaking the numbers for Stinger Toxin and so forth, but otherwise it's really cool as-is.

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Re: The Book of Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (Design Phase)

Every time I've ever wanted to give someone who is extremely durable, tough, or resilient more than 5 life I've been told that is wrong and that anything over 4 life is reserved for very special cases. Furthermore we have teenagers with 3 life in this game to show they do not yet have the same fortitude of a fully developed adult body, hardened with combat experience. So a special case super durable teenager sounds like 4 life to me and you will have a hard time convincing me that she deserves 5 life. If you want to increase her survivablity beyond 4 life, it should come through in a special power on her card in some way.

As for her stinger attack, it sounds more like a straight d20 roll special power to me. Just drop the whole rolling of attack dice and up her basic attack to 3. Then she has a basic attack that can be boosted as an attack option, or the d20 roll as an attack option.
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